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Separating Your Goals and Choices from Other People 28comments
Winners compare their achievements with their goals, while losers compare their achievements with those of other people.
- Nido Qubein
I spent the first twenty five years of my life mostly pushing forward on goals created by other people.
When I was in school, I was told that grades were the only thing that mattered. Thus, I treated school as a rat race for grades rather than an opportunity to learn. So rather than studying and reading and learning for the joy of it, it was all just a slog for grades.
When I went to college, I turned my back on what I really wanted to major in (I wanted to get a B.A. in English lit and then try to get into the University of Iowa’s Writer’s Workshop) and instead chose a major that was much more financially lucrative because others had told me that I needed to major in something lucrative instead of something I was passionate about. So I chose the most interesting (to me) of reasonably lucrative majors.
I chose a career path that certainly paid well (what other people wanted) and allowed me to buy lots of stuff to impress others, but left me without big pieces of the life I wanted.
I spent money because my friends spent money. I bought lots of gadgets because my friends bought lots of gadgets. I spent tons of money on video games and trading cards because that’s what my friends did.
Almost no significant decision in the first twenty five years of my life was made with respect to what I wanted to achieve in my life.
I compared my achievements with those of other people. I didn’t compare my achievements with my own goals.
Looking back, this was the single biggest lesson I learned from my financial turnaround. I spent too much time using what other people were doing as a measurement for how I was doing.
If one of my friends had a new gadget, then I believed that diminished me in some fashion. At the same time, if I had a new gadget that others didn’t have, my worth was higher than theirs.
If someone I knew had a great job, I thought that made my job look worse by comparison. At the same time, if I interacted with someone with a worse job, my job seemed much better.
If someone went to a great restaurant, then the meal I had last night was somehow made worse. At the same time, if I ate at a great restaurant, it was somehow made better if others didn’t do the same.
Friendships. Golf clubs. The latest films. Automobiles. The list went on and on. If my achievements and possessions topped someone else, that validated me. If they didn’t top someone else, then I felt like less of a person.
Every single bit of that was nonsense. Even worse, it was nonsense that paralyzed me and kept me from thinking about what I wanted out of life and how I could get there.
Judged compared to others, I was fairly successful. Judged compared to what I really wanted for my life in my own heart, I was pretty much a failure.
Here’s the thing, though. Most people don’t really care about most of this stuff. You might be able to use something like this to get your foot in the door, but once your foot is in, it really doesn’t matter. People make up their mind about you based on you, not the stuff you have or the restaurant you ate at.
Reset your goals. Recognize that the people around you – at least, the ones who truly matter – don’t care about what you have and what you’ve done beyond the fact that it brings you happiness and satisfaction. Don’t waste your time buying things or doing things to impress others because that sense of being “impressed” is incredibly fleeting and doesn’t matter a whit in the long run.
What does matter is that you wake up each morning with things on your plate that you want to accomplish.
The more time you spend figuring out what big things you want to accomplish in life and taking the steps you need to take to get there, the easier it is to wake up each morning ready to take on what life has to offer.
It’s easier to stay out of debt and reach financial independence because you’re not wasting your money on stuff just to impress others.
It’s easier to simply switch careers to something personally valuable to you that matches your skills because your job isn’t just a rat race to whatever job pays you “top dollar,” because you don’t need “top dollar” because you’re not spending all your money on stuff to impress others.
It’s easier to find the time to do the stuff you want to do because you’re not wasting your time doing all the “trendy” stuff you’re doing to impress your friends. There’s no reason to eat at that expensive restaurant or to squeeze in another golf outing unless it brings a lot of personal value to you.
It’s your life. Figure out what you want and chase that. Everyone that truly matters and truly cares for you will happily join in the chorus.
Trent!!! Don’t confuse me. Our youngest son is starting to look at colleges and he wants to major in music. We feel he has a gift but just can’t let him graduate with 100,000 in student loans. Even with scholarship help we feel his chances of a decent income are narrow we really feel stuck.
Trent,
Are you at a place today where you are happy with the way things turned out or do you still wish you had majored in English? Why not take some classes towards accomplishing that goal, even if it takes a little while longer than returning on a full-time basis?
It is never too late to accomplish your goals…
@2 VT: It isn’t really your choice to make, is it? Sorry to sound harsh but it is your son’s decision to make. I would have hated having my parents tell me what to do with my life, especially in regards to education and a future career.
Money isn’t always the bottom line and I’m not sure where you come up the $100,000 in student loans. You shouldn’t be confused about your son’s education, you should be supportive of whatever he choses.
“Everyone that truly matters and truly cares for you will happily join in the chorus.”
If only this were true! In reality, many communities (and families) are like a bucket of crabs. One may try to climb out, but the others pull it back in.
People generally want you to conform to their idea of you, and they can become very unpleasant when you start to color outside the lines.
That is not in any way to say that Trent’s main point is invalid, just that those who decide to follow a dream, and who expect unconditional support, are likely to receive a pretty severe slapback from at least one person in their lives and they should be prepared for it.
@ #2 Re: majoring in music: how about math, with a minor in music? People good in music are often good in math, and math can lead to many different careers.
I think rebelling against societal ‘norms’ is difficult.
People who ‘create’ for a living typically have that mentality. The idea of a starving artist or musician following their dreams or dropping out of college to build the latest social media platform comes to mind.
The question we must ask ourselves is: “Am I adding value to the world with what I am creating”? If so, then financial rewards are secondary.
@#2 VT: Both my parents majored in music in college, and went on to have careers in music education. My father taught music for over 35 years and retired with an excellent pension in his late 50s. He still teaches music as an adjunct professor and private teacher.
If your son wants to major in music, let him pursue his dreams.
I was very fortunate to have such supportive parents because they encouraged me to go to art school. I’ve had a very successful graphic design career.
Do not assume that a career in the arts or music is not possible.
@#2: you def should be worried, as a college education in music for most people will never justify the 100,000 in student debt they will take on. because you are the parents, it is important that you make your son realize that in the real world, bills need to be paid, and unless he has immense talent, he wont be able to pay his bills with a major in music. just a thought.
How about a compromise?
Major in English Lit but read lots of books about finance! (that worked for me, eventually!)
Major in Music, minor in Math (or something more practical)
Thank you for this post…it was great!
Where does this $100k student loan figure for a music education come from?!?
At the bottom of the financial risk, community colleges can make the entry less expensive. State universities are the next rung on the cost ladder. It’s not until you talk about conservatories and private schools that you should even expect to enter that world of $100k student loans.
1) Work through college.
2) Music does have paying careers, such as becoming a teacher.
3) Scholarships and endowments are possible.
4) Just because you get a degree in something doesn’t mean that’s what you’ll do for a career.
I’m a fan of covering your bases. Obviously your lucrative career allowed you to have enough padding to pursue your passion. I also assume you didn’t leave said career until your writing could pay your way. Sometimes there is nothing wrong with dealing with realism and idealism at the same time.
I hired an employee in December with a degree in Fine Music from Berklee. The job is a lower-tier HR job. She did have some relevant experience, and wanted to build upon that. She said she’ll always have her love of music, but would like to make her career in HR. So far, she’s turning out to be a very good choice, and she seems happy in her role.
@#5 — While I like Trent’s post so much I’m about to share it with friends on Facebook, I have to agree wholeheartedly with you. It’s one thing to stop comparing yourself to others, but it takes immense personal fortitude (which I unfortunately don’t think many people have) to go against the grain. Especially when it’s contrary to the well-meaning opinions of loved ones you trust and care about. Financial independence is hard enough to achieve, but I think emotional independence is much more difficult. Still, kudos to anyone who flies in the face of other people’s advice and achieves their personal dreams!
My question is why did you think and act that way until a few years ago? Personally, I’ve always been rebellious and always questioned what other people said were the goals one should pursue. Especially, anything my father claimed was a good idea. Maybe I went too far in that direction, I don’t know. I’m mostly happy with the path I have taken.
@ Vtcouponqueen #2 = While others have a good point, “it’s not your choice to make”, I do want to say that if you can encourage him to do something more ’solid’ for a major, and do music on the SIDE as a hobby, it would greatly help him in the future.
I speak from experience here folks.
Yes, some folks ‘make it’ in music/art/theatre/drama, but the odds are against you. Almost artist/graphic designer/animator/creative person/musician I know right now is out of work or working outside their field.
@ Tyler #6 = You said “The question we must ask ourselves is: “Am I adding value to the world with what I am creating”? If so, then financial rewards are secondary.”.
That’s all fine and dandy if you DON’T want to eat, and living under a bridge is ok with you. But if you like having a roof over your head and food in your stomach, this is NOT the motto to live by. We need money to survive. I found this out too late. I went through Art School, got my BFA. I thought all I needed was passion and love for my art, and I’d be able to find work and earn money. Now, I’m middle-aged, unable to find work in my field for the past 4 years, and living with my parents. If it was not for my parents, I’d be HOMELESS. And through no fault of my own, other than picking the wrong career. I’ve always been frugal and a saver, and rarely bought any frivolous items, or new clothing or anything that most normal people by. I had no TV. No cable. Just internet, for my work. I just never had any real earning power.
So now, I’m going back to school for my Accounting degree, and I’m keeping art as a side job. And my goal is to warn anyone going into a ‘creative career’ what they’re getting into. Odds are against you, and it’s a much safer bet to major in something solid (math, medicine, accounting, business, engineering, etc), and minor in the creative arts. That way, you will have a solid backing for a real career, and you can do the creative thing on the side, without having to worry about its instability.
Vtcouponqueen – does your son have to go to college to continue with his music? I don’t know anything about music careers, but if you can pursue your dreams without paying so much money I’d say go for it.
Good post. The main problem with amassing huge student loan debts to “follow your passion, your own path” and taking a degree which is useless but interesting or otherwise guaranteed to result in a low paying job, is that your life will be ruined by the enormous debts which can not (thankfully for us taxpayers!) be cancelled by bankruptcy. Get the high paying job FIRST, pay off your debts, then pursue your passions, or you will be crippled by debt forever. You’ll also be resentful of those who have well paying jobs. Work is called “work” for a reason, it’s not a hobby, it’s not supposed to be your passion (nice if it is!) but it is supposed to support you and enable you to become financially prosperous.
I agree with this post somewhat. I think not being happy leads to overspending and overeating, both in a vain attempt at happiness. However, one needs to sometimes work at finding happiness in what one can reasonably achieve. Trent has been successful in finding his niche, but it’s not always possible.
I agree with deRuiter, get a good job, then work on your passion as a sideline. If you are truly talented at your passion, you may be able to turn it into a lucrative job choice at some time.
I know a few people with degrees in their passion who have never been able to get a job in the field. My son has a masters in screenwriting/directing, he works at another job and does film work as a freelance sideline, because entry level jobs pay peanuts ($12,000 a year in NYC!!)
@VT: $100K in debt sounds like a heck of a lot of debt to take on. I would encourage him to work out an alternate plan. For example, maybe he could take a year of general studies classes at a community college to cut a year off of more expensive classes. Maybe he can find some type of work-study program. Maybe he can find some type of internship/apprenticeship for a year now before starting school. There’s a crazy belief in America that children should start college as soon as they finish high school. I think it’s a huge mistake. Taking a year off and getting to know the real world is a huge advantage. Many other countries have a built-in gap year (or more) with military or national service.
I have seen all sides of the music/arts question just in my own sons.
One of my sons wanted to be a music major, it was his passion from early childhood. And he did, for the first year of college. He didn’t put in the hours of practice and they washed him out. Unless he is putting in several hours of practice daily NOW he will not make it at a good music program. He should be taking private lessons on a continuous basis from a professional player of that instrument, also on a quality instrument, not a student model. Summers need to be spent at a music camp. University programs in music are highly variable. Do some research.
I personally know 4 young men who are making a living in music, good money. Our local school system gave them a good basis, but they all attended a local (but world famous) arts focused high school, highly selective. Then they all attended highly rated programs in their instruments at highly rated colleges. They all played less common instruments, no violins. Your local community college will not serve you well in this world.
The son who washed out of music is now in seminary and happier. One son became a professional writer and makes more money than I do as a nurse. His wife is an art museum curator and makes even more money. One son wasted several years trying to make it in comedy. Never got paid a dime for it. Better to try early in life than regretting not trying though. Get it out of the way.
I think sometimes the most difficult part in all of this is appropriately selecting goals. Unfortunately we are influenced by so many things in our life that it is hard to recognize what your “real” goals may be. The shows we watch on TV, the books we read, the people we hang around, all can have an effect on the decisions we make. Before you make any monetary decisions I would say it is important to weigh the choices for the decisions as well as find out where the influence is coming from. The bottom line is the decision is yours to make not anyone else’s. Thanks Trent.
#2 Vtcouponqueen – Just an option you and your son may not have thought of…
My brother was a very talented trombone player in high school. He ended up auditioning for the US Navy Band and was accepted into the program without a degree when he was 18 years old (although a good portion of the musicians he works with do have degrees).
He’s been on active duty for over 8 years now, lives in San Diego, did a tour in Hawaii, and plans to retire at his 20 year mark, when he’s 38 years old!!
He just bought his first home in San Diego this past year, last month he bought an almost new BMW of his dreams, he has no debt outside those two things, and is very happy…and makes more than I do, especially when you calculate in his benefits!
He’s attending college on his off time and plans to have his degree by the time he retires (at 38 I will add again) – which the military is paying for – where he will be plenty young enough to start a new/second career of his choice.
He has traveled with the band to play in concerts and engagements around the world.
And we don’t have to worry about him going to war…he plays a trombone and sings. :)
I play in the local University Wind Ensemble (community member, unpaid.) I have met mostly students who are music EDUCATION majors, and the way the school operates is that they don’t give one credit hour per class contact hour, which is what happens in every other major. Wind Ensemble is 4 hours a week rehearsal; the kids get one lousy credit hour. Marching band is worse. During football season I think they put in about 10 hours a week. They get one whole credit hour for that! The majority of them take 6 years to get through. A $100,000 debt is actually not unrealistic,and the market for music educators right now is marginal.
Performance majors often get through faster, but, as I point out to them, “This ain’t Julliard!” A performance major from Podunk University is close to worthless. It would be far better if the person is a really good musician to head for LA and become a studio musician.
There are other careers in music, and your son should be encouraged to explore all his options. Music therapy is something that may or may not become viable under Obamacare.
I second seeking a career as a military musician. I know a young man who just embarked on his journey last year as a Marine percussionist right out of high school.
It takes guts and courage to go against conventional advice. We’ve grown up trying to please our family and friends, it’s hard to make the switch towards pursuing your personal goals.
I think it helps to surround yourself with like-minded people who will support and encourage you. Sometimes the hardest part is figuring out what your passion/talents are! Once you do, learn how you can bring it out to the marketplace to exchange value (talent for money).
While I wholly agree with this, you’re missing the other side, and that’s that people *will* hate you for it. People you don’t know, who don’t even know you. Most of the people we live around dislike us without even knowing our names, because they see what makes us happy and what we spend our money on. (Cars.)
It’s not just about realizing what makes you happy, you have to be prepared to deal with the backlash of actually saying, “No, sorry, I’m not going to give up on my life like you have.” Which is pretty much how it is, no sugar coating it.
Doesn’t help when it’s only going to get worse from here on out, when we start bringing the Porsches and my first Ferrari home.
Trent may look down at his years as a well-paid worker but those years spent in the “real world” (where most of us live and toil) helped make him the writer that he is now. And helped him know himself better, what is wrong with that?
@BD
I was a music major (Master degree) who truly hated working in her field. My student actually turned me off the music that I loved!
I then turned to business, studied part-time at University for year while I worked, having no other means of support. It was hard but I discovered a new passion, and that a career in finance and accountancy was not only interesting but well-paid and in demand. I am constantly challenged and never bored. I wish you the same experience!
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