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		<title>By: Joseph Librero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Librero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are also people who compare their goals to your goals. They tell you what your goal should be. I think we should look at other people goals but the motive should not be comparison it should be for education. We should be our own goal-setter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are also people who compare their goals to your goals. They tell you what your goal should be. I think we should look at other people goals but the motive should not be comparison it should be for education. We should be our own goal-setter.</p>
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		<title>By: LJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 04:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, I quite liked this article it made me think about my life a lot more than I had been doing.  I&#039;ve really just been existing for the last 8 months, when i moved countries.  I don&#039;t make friends very easily as i have always marched to my own tune.  The people I work  with are lovely, they all talk and do the same stuff...shopping for clothes, shoes, expensive restaurants etc.  This is not me, and I find it hard to fit in.  I find myself questioning my goals all the time, save for house, or buy some shoes so i can join in the conversation at work and &#039;conform&#039;.  I want to buy a house, i&#039;ll be happy once i reach this goal, but I would also like to be included at work, which would make me happy also.  How can you accomplish being happy and achieving your goals without making yourself an outsider as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I quite liked this article it made me think about my life a lot more than I had been doing.  I&#8217;ve really just been existing for the last 8 months, when i moved countries.  I don&#8217;t make friends very easily as i have always marched to my own tune.  The people I work  with are lovely, they all talk and do the same stuff&#8230;shopping for clothes, shoes, expensive restaurants etc.  This is not me, and I find it hard to fit in.  I find myself questioning my goals all the time, save for house, or buy some shoes so i can join in the conversation at work and &#8216;conform&#8217;.  I want to buy a house, i&#8217;ll be happy once i reach this goal, but I would also like to be included at work, which would make me happy also.  How can you accomplish being happy and achieving your goals without making yourself an outsider as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Eating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 04:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What does matter is that you wake up each morning with things on your plate that you want to accomplish.&quot;

It also matters whether you can wake up each morning and be able to put food on your plate.

Some of us have to be mine workers, and linemen, and receptionists, ..., because that&#039;s what we can get and we want to feed our families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What does matter is that you wake up each morning with things on your plate that you want to accomplish.&#8221;</p>
<p>It also matters whether you can wake up each morning and be able to put food on your plate.</p>
<p>Some of us have to be mine workers, and linemen, and receptionists, &#8230;, because that&#8217;s what we can get and we want to feed our families.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia (Atypical Type A)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia (Atypical Type A)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 23:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post, Trent. When I am planning the household budget or just making all those little day-to-day choices, I question myself, &quot;Is this spending in line with my values and goals&quot;. 

@ #18  I have to disagree. I want passion and fulfilment in my whole life, not just after 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post, Trent. When I am planning the household budget or just making all those little day-to-day choices, I question myself, &#8220;Is this spending in line with my values and goals&#8221;. </p>
<p>@ #18  I have to disagree. I want passion and fulfilment in my whole life, not just after 5.</p>
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		<title>By: Birdiesmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Birdiesmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 20:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a Psych major who graduated third in my class, but didn&#039;t get accepted into a graduate clinical psychology program (competition was incredibly tough). I got a Masters of Divinity degree in counseling at a well-regarded seminary, but was told by supervisors during my one-year residency as a hospital chaplain (after graduation) that I &quot;empathized too much&quot; with the patients, and was unsuited for counseling. I worked for a while with physically and developmentally disabled teens and adults, mostly in a supportive care role, then did manuscript editing, worked at a living history museum as a costumed guide, and now work as a secretary/truck driver for a machine shop that manufactures metal parts. Needless to say, my years in college/grad school have had little effect on my job history. I have applied over the years for counseling jobs, but have never even gotten an interview.

Unlike Trent, I never had a period of employment success. I pursued psychology because I was told (by parents and school counselors) that my true love, drawing and painting, would never support me financially, and psychology was an interest of mine. Unfortunately, it was after I had the education that I was told I had no &quot;talent&quot; for counseling.

I have no savings other than a retirement plan that might support me for a year or two (thankfully I do have health insurance, but the plan gets worse every year), a loan to pay off, and credit card debt. I&#039;m 48 years old. If it weren&#039;t for friends, at this point I&#039;d be homeless.

I have been greatly inspired by this blog, and intend to start painting again. But I have no illusions that I&#039;ll be able to start selling paintings at craft shows and eventually quit my job at the machine shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a Psych major who graduated third in my class, but didn&#8217;t get accepted into a graduate clinical psychology program (competition was incredibly tough). I got a Masters of Divinity degree in counseling at a well-regarded seminary, but was told by supervisors during my one-year residency as a hospital chaplain (after graduation) that I &#8220;empathized too much&#8221; with the patients, and was unsuited for counseling. I worked for a while with physically and developmentally disabled teens and adults, mostly in a supportive care role, then did manuscript editing, worked at a living history museum as a costumed guide, and now work as a secretary/truck driver for a machine shop that manufactures metal parts. Needless to say, my years in college/grad school have had little effect on my job history. I have applied over the years for counseling jobs, but have never even gotten an interview.</p>
<p>Unlike Trent, I never had a period of employment success. I pursued psychology because I was told (by parents and school counselors) that my true love, drawing and painting, would never support me financially, and psychology was an interest of mine. Unfortunately, it was after I had the education that I was told I had no &#8220;talent&#8221; for counseling.</p>
<p>I have no savings other than a retirement plan that might support me for a year or two (thankfully I do have health insurance, but the plan gets worse every year), a loan to pay off, and credit card debt. I&#8217;m 48 years old. If it weren&#8217;t for friends, at this point I&#8217;d be homeless.</p>
<p>I have been greatly inspired by this blog, and intend to start painting again. But I have no illusions that I&#8217;ll be able to start selling paintings at craft shows and eventually quit my job at the machine shop.</p>
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		<title>By: Evita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BD 
I was a music major (Master degree) who truly hated working in her field. My student actually turned me off the music that I loved!
I then turned to business, studied part-time at University for year while I worked, having no other means of support. It was hard but I discovered a new passion, and that a career in finance and accountancy was not only interesting but well-paid and in demand. I am constantly challenged and never bored. I wish you the same experience!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BD<br />
I was a music major (Master degree) who truly hated working in her field. My student actually turned me off the music that I loved!<br />
I then turned to business, studied part-time at University for year while I worked, having no other means of support. It was hard but I discovered a new passion, and that a career in finance and accountancy was not only interesting but well-paid and in demand. I am constantly challenged and never bored. I wish you the same experience!</p>
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		<title>By: Evita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent may look down at his years as a well-paid worker but those years spent in the &quot;real world&quot; (where most of us live and toil) helped make him the writer that he is now. And helped him know himself better, what is wrong with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent may look down at his years as a well-paid worker but those years spent in the &#8220;real world&#8221; (where most of us live and toil) helped make him the writer that he is now. And helped him know himself better, what is wrong with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is a post very close to my heart. For all those saying pick the more &quot;practical&quot; career, I can&#039;t say I agree. I&#039;m a physician and I&#039;m about to go bankrupt, and not because I&#039;m reckless with money. It&#039;s because from the time I started training to now, medicine has changed tremendously, and MANY physicians in small practices are going bankrupt as well. And, a lot depends on the specialty, but there&#039;s not way to know when you start what will be going on in your field 4-10 years later. No one could have predicted the way things are in medicine now in 1993 when I started med school. So, a career that was supposed to be a sure thing isn&#039;t, and I don&#039;t even like it. Sure I could go work in some big corporate practice where I&#039;d kill myself working unGodly hours until I burn out or take up drinking, but one of the reasons I chose medicine is because I DIDN&#039;T want to work in corporate America, and this still won&#039;t work for me.

So, I&#039;ve gone back to school to pursue my passion - I&#039;m getting an interior design masters. Now my creative career may be a bit different because I plan to do healthcare design and as a physician who has practiced, I have an advantage, and interior design, especially healthcare design, is the type of creative field where there are jobs available. But, considering the toll that medicine has placed on me and my mental health/personal life, if I had to do it all over, I WOULDN&#039;T DO IT!! I&#039;d go with my heart.

Living each day being something that you&#039;re not is not a workable option. You can read about &quot;falsification of type&quot; and &quot;prolonged adaptation stress syndrome&quot; at www.arlenetaylor.org (and, no this is not me, we just have the same first name). There&#039;s research being done on the effects of living against your natural personality type, and the results are not pretty.

I make less now than I have in 9 years but I&#039;m so much happier because each day I&#039;m moving closer to what I love and my time is more and more filled with something I actually am interested in and like to do. Living each day struggling to get through it is no way to live and will lead to burnout sooner or later. I will be able to pay my bills and have a reasonable life, and maybe I&#039;ll make more than I could in the specialty I chose, but if not, I&#039;ll be happier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is a post very close to my heart. For all those saying pick the more &#8220;practical&#8221; career, I can&#8217;t say I agree. I&#8217;m a physician and I&#8217;m about to go bankrupt, and not because I&#8217;m reckless with money. It&#8217;s because from the time I started training to now, medicine has changed tremendously, and MANY physicians in small practices are going bankrupt as well. And, a lot depends on the specialty, but there&#8217;s not way to know when you start what will be going on in your field 4-10 years later. No one could have predicted the way things are in medicine now in 1993 when I started med school. So, a career that was supposed to be a sure thing isn&#8217;t, and I don&#8217;t even like it. Sure I could go work in some big corporate practice where I&#8217;d kill myself working unGodly hours until I burn out or take up drinking, but one of the reasons I chose medicine is because I DIDN&#8217;T want to work in corporate America, and this still won&#8217;t work for me.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ve gone back to school to pursue my passion &#8211; I&#8217;m getting an interior design masters. Now my creative career may be a bit different because I plan to do healthcare design and as a physician who has practiced, I have an advantage, and interior design, especially healthcare design, is the type of creative field where there are jobs available. But, considering the toll that medicine has placed on me and my mental health/personal life, if I had to do it all over, I WOULDN&#8217;T DO IT!! I&#8217;d go with my heart.</p>
<p>Living each day being something that you&#8217;re not is not a workable option. You can read about &#8220;falsification of type&#8221; and &#8220;prolonged adaptation stress syndrome&#8221; at <a href="http://www.arlenetaylor.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.arlenetaylor.org</a> (and, no this is not me, we just have the same first name). There&#8217;s research being done on the effects of living against your natural personality type, and the results are not pretty.</p>
<p>I make less now than I have in 9 years but I&#8217;m so much happier because each day I&#8217;m moving closer to what I love and my time is more and more filled with something I actually am interested in and like to do. Living each day struggling to get through it is no way to live and will lead to burnout sooner or later. I will be able to pay my bills and have a reasonable life, and maybe I&#8217;ll make more than I could in the specialty I chose, but if not, I&#8217;ll be happier.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 15:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I wholly agree with this, you&#039;re missing the other side, and that&#039;s that people *will* hate you for it. People you don&#039;t know, who don&#039;t even know you. Most of the people we live around dislike us without even knowing our names, because they see what makes us happy and what we spend our money on. (Cars.)

It&#039;s not just about realizing what makes you happy, you have to be prepared to deal with the backlash of actually saying, &quot;No, sorry, I&#039;m not going to give up on my life like you have.&quot; Which is pretty much how it is, no sugar coating it.

Doesn&#039;t help when it&#039;s only going to get worse from here on out, when we start bringing the Porsches and my first Ferrari home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I wholly agree with this, you&#8217;re missing the other side, and that&#8217;s that people *will* hate you for it. People you don&#8217;t know, who don&#8217;t even know you. Most of the people we live around dislike us without even knowing our names, because they see what makes us happy and what we spend our money on. (Cars.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just about realizing what makes you happy, you have to be prepared to deal with the backlash of actually saying, &#8220;No, sorry, I&#8217;m not going to give up on my life like you have.&#8221; Which is pretty much how it is, no sugar coating it.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t help when it&#8217;s only going to get worse from here on out, when we start bringing the Porsches and my first Ferrari home.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 15:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,
I&#039;ve read all the comments, and I am very unpleased with the people judging without experience in which is a good or bad career.

First of all, the biggest debt we all have is with ourselves, we MUST seek for happiness.

Second, the career is not the most important, is the way you make it happen. You can be a very low pay engineer (I know, I&#039;m one) or a very rich musician.

DON&#039;T kill other peoples dreams, you are killing them and you will NEVER be forgiven (if they say other thing, is a lie).
Forbidding  your son or daughter to follow their dreams is murder.  I&#039;ll never forgive my parents for all the dreams and spirit they have killed in me since I have memory. And at the day, I barely talk to them, and they know if I get mad at them, they will not know from me for months or even years.

So you are in a hurry and have to decide FAST? You are WRONG, wait another year for starting university, meanwhile, learn many things.

Your son/daughter is heading something you don&#039;t consider good? 
Guide them, make plans, look for options. Learn about the subject, make an informed decition. Also finance together so you can plan together the future.  DON&#039;T pre-judge!!! 

Search for opportunities to NOT get in debt and others pay for your studies. 
Everything I see about US and University is a loan. Don&#039;t be fool, is not the only way to pay your studies.

For example, I got a scholarship to France last year. And I passed the 2 previous years with another scholarship from another institution at Argentina.
I worked since I was 18.
Others had money. Others looked for options in other places. Others worked for years in order to save money for studying later.

Search for cheaper options. USA is not the only country in the world, and I can assure you, there are very good Universities in other places. Also, what you learn depends SOLELY on YOU.
Search for 3rd world options, specially in South America. Argentina and Brazil have many well known Universities.

In the end _Follow your dreams_. And DON&#039;T be fool, you have to learn how to sell your image, personal marketing, manage and dominate several tools. Or at leas associate with people that you can trust dominates the thing you don&#039;t.
You have to learn to search for options to be able to FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS!!!


Leo

P.S. When I say follow your dreams, you must define first what are those dreams. Is difficult to follow something you don&#039;t know even now what or where it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,<br />
I&#8217;ve read all the comments, and I am very unpleased with the people judging without experience in which is a good or bad career.</p>
<p>First of all, the biggest debt we all have is with ourselves, we MUST seek for happiness.</p>
<p>Second, the career is not the most important, is the way you make it happen. You can be a very low pay engineer (I know, I&#8217;m one) or a very rich musician.</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T kill other peoples dreams, you are killing them and you will NEVER be forgiven (if they say other thing, is a lie).<br />
Forbidding  your son or daughter to follow their dreams is murder.  I&#8217;ll never forgive my parents for all the dreams and spirit they have killed in me since I have memory. And at the day, I barely talk to them, and they know if I get mad at them, they will not know from me for months or even years.</p>
<p>So you are in a hurry and have to decide FAST? You are WRONG, wait another year for starting university, meanwhile, learn many things.</p>
<p>Your son/daughter is heading something you don&#8217;t consider good?<br />
Guide them, make plans, look for options. Learn about the subject, make an informed decition. Also finance together so you can plan together the future.  DON&#8217;T pre-judge!!! </p>
<p>Search for opportunities to NOT get in debt and others pay for your studies.<br />
Everything I see about US and University is a loan. Don&#8217;t be fool, is not the only way to pay your studies.</p>
<p>For example, I got a scholarship to France last year. And I passed the 2 previous years with another scholarship from another institution at Argentina.<br />
I worked since I was 18.<br />
Others had money. Others looked for options in other places. Others worked for years in order to save money for studying later.</p>
<p>Search for cheaper options. USA is not the only country in the world, and I can assure you, there are very good Universities in other places. Also, what you learn depends SOLELY on YOU.<br />
Search for 3rd world options, specially in South America. Argentina and Brazil have many well known Universities.</p>
<p>In the end _Follow your dreams_. And DON&#8217;T be fool, you have to learn how to sell your image, personal marketing, manage and dominate several tools. Or at leas associate with people that you can trust dominates the thing you don&#8217;t.<br />
You have to learn to search for options to be able to FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS!!!</p>
<p>Leo</p>
<p>P.S. When I say follow your dreams, you must define first what are those dreams. Is difficult to follow something you don&#8217;t know even now what or where it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 14:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes guts and courage to go against conventional advice.  We&#039;ve grown up trying to please our family and friends, it&#039;s hard to make the switch towards pursuing your personal goals.

I think it helps to surround yourself with like-minded people who will support and encourage you.  Sometimes the hardest part is figuring out what your passion/talents are!  Once you do, learn how you can bring it out to the marketplace to exchange value (talent for money).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes guts and courage to go against conventional advice.  We&#8217;ve grown up trying to please our family and friends, it&#8217;s hard to make the switch towards pursuing your personal goals.</p>
<p>I think it helps to surround yourself with like-minded people who will support and encourage you.  Sometimes the hardest part is figuring out what your passion/talents are!  Once you do, learn how you can bring it out to the marketplace to exchange value (talent for money).</p>
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		<title>By: SLCCOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLCCOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 14:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I play in the local University Wind Ensemble (community member, unpaid.) I have met mostly students who are music EDUCATION majors, and the way the school operates is that they don&#039;t give one credit hour per class contact hour, which is what happens in every other major. Wind Ensemble is 4 hours a week rehearsal; the kids get one lousy credit hour. Marching band is worse. During football season I think they put in about 10 hours a week. They get one whole credit hour for that! The majority of them take 6 years to get through. A $100,000 debt is actually not unrealistic,and the market for music educators right now is marginal. 

Performance majors often get through faster, but, as I point out to them, &quot;This ain&#039;t Julliard!&quot; A performance major from Podunk University is close to worthless. It would be far better if the person is a really good musician to head for LA and become a studio musician. 

There are other careers in music, and your son should be encouraged to explore all his options. Music therapy is something that may or may not become viable under Obamacare. 

I second seeking a career as a military musician. I know a young man who just embarked on his journey last year as a Marine percussionist right out of high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I play in the local University Wind Ensemble (community member, unpaid.) I have met mostly students who are music EDUCATION majors, and the way the school operates is that they don&#8217;t give one credit hour per class contact hour, which is what happens in every other major. Wind Ensemble is 4 hours a week rehearsal; the kids get one lousy credit hour. Marching band is worse. During football season I think they put in about 10 hours a week. They get one whole credit hour for that! The majority of them take 6 years to get through. A $100,000 debt is actually not unrealistic,and the market for music educators right now is marginal. </p>
<p>Performance majors often get through faster, but, as I point out to them, &#8220;This ain&#8217;t Julliard!&#8221; A performance major from Podunk University is close to worthless. It would be far better if the person is a really good musician to head for LA and become a studio musician. </p>
<p>There are other careers in music, and your son should be encouraged to explore all his options. Music therapy is something that may or may not become viable under Obamacare. </p>
<p>I second seeking a career as a military musician. I know a young man who just embarked on his journey last year as a Marine percussionist right out of high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 13:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 Vtcouponqueen - Just an option you and your son may not have thought of...

My brother was a very talented trombone player in high school.  He ended up auditioning for the US Navy Band and was accepted into the program without a degree when he was 18 years old (although a good portion of the musicians he works with do have degrees).

He&#039;s been on active duty for over 8 years now, lives in San Diego, did a tour in Hawaii, and plans to retire at his 20 year mark, when he&#039;s 38 years old!!

He just bought his first home in San Diego this past year, last month he bought an almost new BMW of his dreams, he has no debt outside those two things, and is very happy...and makes more than I do, especially when you calculate in his benefits! 

He&#039;s attending college on his off time and plans to have his degree by the time he retires (at 38 I will add again) - which the military is paying for - where he will be plenty young enough to start a new/second career of his choice.

He has traveled with the band to play in concerts and engagements around the world.

And we don&#039;t have to worry about him going to war...he plays a trombone and sings. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 Vtcouponqueen &#8211; Just an option you and your son may not have thought of&#8230;</p>
<p>My brother was a very talented trombone player in high school.  He ended up auditioning for the US Navy Band and was accepted into the program without a degree when he was 18 years old (although a good portion of the musicians he works with do have degrees).</p>
<p>He&#8217;s been on active duty for over 8 years now, lives in San Diego, did a tour in Hawaii, and plans to retire at his 20 year mark, when he&#8217;s 38 years old!!</p>
<p>He just bought his first home in San Diego this past year, last month he bought an almost new BMW of his dreams, he has no debt outside those two things, and is very happy&#8230;and makes more than I do, especially when you calculate in his benefits! </p>
<p>He&#8217;s attending college on his off time and plans to have his degree by the time he retires (at 38 I will add again) &#8211; which the military is paying for &#8211; where he will be plenty young enough to start a new/second career of his choice.</p>
<p>He has traveled with the band to play in concerts and engagements around the world.</p>
<p>And we don&#8217;t have to worry about him going to war&#8230;he plays a trombone and sings. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 13:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@VT: Every day I regret majoring in accounting instead of dance. Sure, I make a lot of money and have nearly paid off my loans...but you can always go back to school for something &quot;practical,&quot; or pick skills up on the job. It isn&#039;t as easy to get a performing arts education at 32. There aren&#039;t the night school options for dance that there are for accounting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VT: Every day I regret majoring in accounting instead of dance. Sure, I make a lot of money and have nearly paid off my loans&#8230;but you can always go back to school for something &#8220;practical,&#8221; or pick skills up on the job. It isn&#8217;t as easy to get a performing arts education at 32. There aren&#8217;t the night school options for dance that there are for accounting.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 13:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think sometimes the most difficult part in all of this is appropriately selecting goals. Unfortunately we are influenced by so many things in our life that it is hard to recognize what your &quot;real&quot; goals may be. The shows we watch on TV, the books we read, the people we hang around, all can have an effect on the decisions we make. Before you make any monetary decisions I would say it is important to weigh the choices for the decisions as well as find out where the influence is coming from. The bottom line is the decision is yours to make not anyone else&#039;s. Thanks Trent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think sometimes the most difficult part in all of this is appropriately selecting goals. Unfortunately we are influenced by so many things in our life that it is hard to recognize what your &#8220;real&#8221; goals may be. The shows we watch on TV, the books we read, the people we hang around, all can have an effect on the decisions we make. Before you make any monetary decisions I would say it is important to weigh the choices for the decisions as well as find out where the influence is coming from. The bottom line is the decision is yours to make not anyone else&#8217;s. Thanks Trent.</p>
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		<title>By: GayleRN</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayleRN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 12:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen all sides of the music/arts question just in my own sons.  

One of my sons wanted to be a music major, it was his passion from early childhood.  And he did, for the first year of college.  He didn&#039;t put in the hours of practice and they washed him out.  Unless he is putting in several hours of practice daily NOW he will not make it at a good music program.  He should be taking private lessons on a continuous basis from a professional player of that instrument, also on a quality instrument, not a student model.  Summers need to be spent at a music camp.  University programs in music are highly variable.  Do some research.  

I personally know 4 young men who are making a living in music, good money.  Our local school system gave them a good basis, but they all attended a local (but world famous) arts focused high school, highly selective.  Then they all attended highly rated programs in their instruments at highly rated colleges.  They all played less common instruments, no violins.  Your local community college will not serve you well in this world. 

The son who washed out of music is now in seminary and happier.  One son became a professional writer and makes more money than I do as a nurse.  His wife is an art museum curator and makes even more money.  One son wasted several years trying to make it in comedy.  Never got paid a dime for it.  Better to try early in life than regretting not trying though.  Get it out of the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen all sides of the music/arts question just in my own sons.  </p>
<p>One of my sons wanted to be a music major, it was his passion from early childhood.  And he did, for the first year of college.  He didn&#8217;t put in the hours of practice and they washed him out.  Unless he is putting in several hours of practice daily NOW he will not make it at a good music program.  He should be taking private lessons on a continuous basis from a professional player of that instrument, also on a quality instrument, not a student model.  Summers need to be spent at a music camp.  University programs in music are highly variable.  Do some research.  </p>
<p>I personally know 4 young men who are making a living in music, good money.  Our local school system gave them a good basis, but they all attended a local (but world famous) arts focused high school, highly selective.  Then they all attended highly rated programs in their instruments at highly rated colleges.  They all played less common instruments, no violins.  Your local community college will not serve you well in this world. </p>
<p>The son who washed out of music is now in seminary and happier.  One son became a professional writer and makes more money than I do as a nurse.  His wife is an art museum curator and makes even more money.  One son wasted several years trying to make it in comedy.  Never got paid a dime for it.  Better to try early in life than regretting not trying though.  Get it out of the way.</p>
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		<title>By: triLcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>triLcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 12:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@VT: $100K in debt sounds like a heck of a lot of debt to take on. I would encourage him to work out an alternate plan. For example, maybe he could take a year of general studies classes at a community college to cut a year off of more expensive classes. Maybe he can find some type of work-study program. Maybe he can find some type of internship/apprenticeship for a year now before starting school. There&#039;s a crazy belief in America that children should start college as soon as they finish high school. I think it&#039;s a huge mistake. Taking a year off and getting to know the real world is a huge advantage. Many other countries have a built-in gap year (or more) with military or national service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VT: $100K in debt sounds like a heck of a lot of debt to take on. I would encourage him to work out an alternate plan. For example, maybe he could take a year of general studies classes at a community college to cut a year off of more expensive classes. Maybe he can find some type of work-study program. Maybe he can find some type of internship/apprenticeship for a year now before starting school. There&#8217;s a crazy belief in America that children should start college as soon as they finish high school. I think it&#8217;s a huge mistake. Taking a year off and getting to know the real world is a huge advantage. Many other countries have a built-in gap year (or more) with military or national service.</p>
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		<title>By: Ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 11:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I really enjoyed reading this post.  I definitely compare myself to other people too much.  I&#039;m always thinking I&#039;m such a failure because I haven&#039;t progressed as far in my life as other people.  This is a good reminder for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I really enjoyed reading this post.  I definitely compare myself to other people too much.  I&#8217;m always thinking I&#8217;m such a failure because I haven&#8217;t progressed as far in my life as other people.  This is a good reminder for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 10:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I majored in math, and where I went to university there were so many musicians studying math that we held an annual concert.  

That said, I don&#039;t think math is that practical, unless you make sure to take classes in computer programming and statistics and make an effort to apply it to real-world things.  A couple of my musical friends finished their PhD in pure math and then became musicians.  It seemed just as reasonable a career path as trying to be a professor. I wouldn&#039;t see mathematics as a ticket to easy money, and pure math can be quite addictive which can have negative consequences for your career.  

But I don&#039;t think any major is a ticket to financial security.  An entrepreneurial spirit and self-knowledge helps more.  Following your dreams can teach you more about yourself than following the path with less resistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I majored in math, and where I went to university there were so many musicians studying math that we held an annual concert.  </p>
<p>That said, I don&#8217;t think math is that practical, unless you make sure to take classes in computer programming and statistics and make an effort to apply it to real-world things.  A couple of my musical friends finished their PhD in pure math and then became musicians.  It seemed just as reasonable a career path as trying to be a professor. I wouldn&#8217;t see mathematics as a ticket to easy money, and pure math can be quite addictive which can have negative consequences for your career.  </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think any major is a ticket to financial security.  An entrepreneurial spirit and self-knowledge helps more.  Following your dreams can teach you more about yourself than following the path with less resistance.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 10:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this post somewhat.  I think not being happy leads to overspending and overeating, both in a vain attempt at happiness.  However, one needs to sometimes work at finding happiness in what one can reasonably achieve.  Trent has been successful in finding his niche,  but it&#039;s not always possible.
I agree with deRuiter, get a good job, then work on your passion as a sideline.  If you are truly talented at your passion, you may be able to turn it into a lucrative job choice at some time.
I know a few people with degrees in their passion who have never been able to get a job in the field.  My son has a masters in screenwriting/directing, he works at another job and does film work as a freelance sideline, because entry level jobs pay peanuts ($12,000 a year in NYC!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this post somewhat.  I think not being happy leads to overspending and overeating, both in a vain attempt at happiness.  However, one needs to sometimes work at finding happiness in what one can reasonably achieve.  Trent has been successful in finding his niche,  but it&#8217;s not always possible.<br />
I agree with deRuiter, get a good job, then work on your passion as a sideline.  If you are truly talented at your passion, you may be able to turn it into a lucrative job choice at some time.<br />
I know a few people with degrees in their passion who have never been able to get a job in the field.  My son has a masters in screenwriting/directing, he works at another job and does film work as a freelance sideline, because entry level jobs pay peanuts ($12,000 a year in NYC!!)</p>
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