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		<title>By: Fidget</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/08/delayed-gratification-and-children/#comment-915400</link>
		<dc:creator>Fidget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 05:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Constructing reading as something that&#039;s inherently good and tv as something inherently bad is...well, the nice word would be irritating, at best. Past a certain age/level of literacy, reading for the sake of reading, just to be someone who &quot;isn&#039;t watching tv&quot; isn&#039;t all that beneficial. And trashing people who watch tv is easier to see as ridiculous when you replace tv with film.
TV also has more social/socializing potential than reading. I know my boyfriend and I don&#039;t sit quietly and watch programs; we watch Boston Legal with plenty of pauses for discussion and debate that is often more valuable to my intellectual life than my private reading.
Getting my doctorate in comparative literature, you&#039;d be surprised how often television is academically relevant. Nevermind the social aspects...if you can be someone who doesn&#039;t watch tv and not mistake that for moral virtue on your part, great, but most non-watchers brag about it every chance they get. What&#039;s more cringe-worthy: spending an hour of your time to watch a trashy tv show, or 10 hours to read a Dan Brown novel? Why do people brag about choosing the latter?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constructing reading as something that&#8217;s inherently good and tv as something inherently bad is&#8230;well, the nice word would be irritating, at best. Past a certain age/level of literacy, reading for the sake of reading, just to be someone who &#8220;isn&#8217;t watching tv&#8221; isn&#8217;t all that beneficial. And trashing people who watch tv is easier to see as ridiculous when you replace tv with film.<br />
TV also has more social/socializing potential than reading. I know my boyfriend and I don&#8217;t sit quietly and watch programs; we watch Boston Legal with plenty of pauses for discussion and debate that is often more valuable to my intellectual life than my private reading.<br />
Getting my doctorate in comparative literature, you&#8217;d be surprised how often television is academically relevant. Nevermind the social aspects&#8230;if you can be someone who doesn&#8217;t watch tv and not mistake that for moral virtue on your part, great, but most non-watchers brag about it every chance they get. What&#8217;s more cringe-worthy: spending an hour of your time to watch a trashy tv show, or 10 hours to read a Dan Brown novel? Why do people brag about choosing the latter?</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to say that after reading your bit about Magna-Tiles, I picked up some for my 2 year old daughter, and she *loves* them. It&#039;s especially nice that she can play with other people with them and that they don&#039;t have any logos on them. Thanks for the recommendation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say that after reading your bit about Magna-Tiles, I picked up some for my 2 year old daughter, and she *loves* them. It&#8217;s especially nice that she can play with other people with them and that they don&#8217;t have any logos on them. Thanks for the recommendation.</p>
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		<title>By: Cree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 02:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Off topic - Hehe very tough readers today, they want their gratification now damn it!

On topic-
I remember prizing a few possessions as a kid, things I&#039;d waited long and hard to get. Money being less available then, my parents had no choice but to wait until they could afford it.
I wanted my kids to have a sense of value, not just &quot;buy me that&quot;. As we can afford to buy the kids things whenever we want to, it does take some discipline to teach them the value of a purchase.

Scenario: My 4yo wanted a bike.  Being a physical activity, we really wanted her to have one. Her birtday is just after Christmas, so it was a long wait to make it a present.
We instead came up with a &quot;bicycle chart&quot; - we drew a big picture of a bike, and 50 squares underneath it.  Everynight, we talked about the very good things she&#039;d done that day, and rewarded her with squares. Not expected tasks (like getting dressed) but special actions.  She coloured in/stamped/pasted/etc how ever many squares she&#039;d been rewarded.
When the chart was full, we took it to the bike shop and she chose a bike.  We were very proud of her for earning the bike, and she was very proud of herself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic &#8211; Hehe very tough readers today, they want their gratification now damn it!</p>
<p>On topic-<br />
I remember prizing a few possessions as a kid, things I&#8217;d waited long and hard to get. Money being less available then, my parents had no choice but to wait until they could afford it.<br />
I wanted my kids to have a sense of value, not just &#8220;buy me that&#8221;. As we can afford to buy the kids things whenever we want to, it does take some discipline to teach them the value of a purchase.</p>
<p>Scenario: My 4yo wanted a bike.  Being a physical activity, we really wanted her to have one. Her birtday is just after Christmas, so it was a long wait to make it a present.<br />
We instead came up with a &#8220;bicycle chart&#8221; &#8211; we drew a big picture of a bike, and 50 squares underneath it.  Everynight, we talked about the very good things she&#8217;d done that day, and rewarded her with squares. Not expected tasks (like getting dressed) but special actions.  She coloured in/stamped/pasted/etc how ever many squares she&#8217;d been rewarded.<br />
When the chart was full, we took it to the bike shop and she chose a bike.  We were very proud of her for earning the bike, and she was very proud of herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/08/delayed-gratification-and-children/#comment-914229</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My husband linked me to this article.  We have a 2 year old, and it has definitely been tough teaching delayed gratification.  He&#039;ll cry if he has to wait for his macaroni and cheese to cool off before we serve it to him.

I especially liked your last point, Trent, about the rewarding the effort versus the outcome.  Author Po Bronson has a really good book called &quot;nurture shock&quot; that has a chapter on this topic.  Great reading for parents.

Emily]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband linked me to this article.  We have a 2 year old, and it has definitely been tough teaching delayed gratification.  He&#8217;ll cry if he has to wait for his macaroni and cheese to cool off before we serve it to him.</p>
<p>I especially liked your last point, Trent, about the rewarding the effort versus the outcome.  Author Po Bronson has a really good book called &#8220;nurture shock&#8221; that has a chapter on this topic.  Great reading for parents.</p>
<p>Emily</p>
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		<title>By: Larabara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larabara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Charles @46 on one thing, and that&#039;s travel.  My elderly uncle advised me that if I wanted to travel the world, and see the sights, then I should do it while I was young enough to fully enjoy the traveling experience.  When you are too old to travel, your physical limitations will severely limit your enjoyment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Charles @46 on one thing, and that&#8217;s travel.  My elderly uncle advised me that if I wanted to travel the world, and see the sights, then I should do it while I was young enough to fully enjoy the traveling experience.  When you are too old to travel, your physical limitations will severely limit your enjoyment.</p>
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		<title>By: WendyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>WendyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[seriously.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/08/delayed-gratification-and-children/#comment-914194</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it delayed gratification if you watch TV instead of going out to buy a brand new book that you really really want, while waiting for a copy to show up at the library?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it delayed gratification if you watch TV instead of going out to buy a brand new book that you really really want, while waiting for a copy to show up at the library?</p>
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		<title>By: margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although some kids were naturally better at delayed gratification than others, the researcher that I read about suggested that it might be possible to teach coping skills that would help a child with delayed gratification.  For example, some kids would obviously try to wait, but they did it by staring intensely at the treat.  This turns out to be a bad strategy because the treat is all they think about.  Some kids would try by looking away or singing songs or doing other things to distract themselves.  They were more successful.  I think for some tests, the kids who couldn&#039;t wait were taught some coping skills and retested with more success.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although some kids were naturally better at delayed gratification than others, the researcher that I read about suggested that it might be possible to teach coping skills that would help a child with delayed gratification.  For example, some kids would obviously try to wait, but they did it by staring intensely at the treat.  This turns out to be a bad strategy because the treat is all they think about.  Some kids would try by looking away or singing songs or doing other things to distract themselves.  They were more successful.  I think for some tests, the kids who couldn&#8217;t wait were taught some coping skills and retested with more success.</p>
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		<title>By: rxtx</title>
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		<dc:creator>rxtx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent, have you ever considered that reading might be your timesink? I don&#039;t see much difference between spending large amounts of time watching TV compared to spending large amounts of time reading, if you assume that the content being consumed is of the same &#039;quality&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, have you ever considered that reading might be your timesink? I don&#8217;t see much difference between spending large amounts of time watching TV compared to spending large amounts of time reading, if you assume that the content being consumed is of the same &#8216;quality&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Evangeline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evangeline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would imagine that one of the reasons to have a blog might be to encourage discussion and that has certainly been accomplished with this article.  But a lot of this is crap.  If you want to take your free time and knit, garden, refurbish an antique car, read or whatever then just do it.  If you&#039;re taking your free time and watching a ball game, talking on the phone, reading recipe books, then do that.  All this nitpicking is so fifth grade playground silliness. It&#039;s an article about delayed gratification not who&#039;s activity is better than another&#039;s. Geez, get back to the subject at hand. Many many things lead to delayed gratification. Leave it at that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would imagine that one of the reasons to have a blog might be to encourage discussion and that has certainly been accomplished with this article.  But a lot of this is crap.  If you want to take your free time and knit, garden, refurbish an antique car, read or whatever then just do it.  If you&#8217;re taking your free time and watching a ball game, talking on the phone, reading recipe books, then do that.  All this nitpicking is so fifth grade playground silliness. It&#8217;s an article about delayed gratification not who&#8217;s activity is better than another&#8217;s. Geez, get back to the subject at hand. Many many things lead to delayed gratification. Leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: ITGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ITGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You want to talk about delayed gratification?  Talk about picking a pitcher for fantasy baseball that was still in the minors at the start of the season.  But, when he makes his debut, he strikes out 14, hits 100MPH on numerous pitches, walks ZERO, and gets the W.  Congrats on that pick man, hope you started him!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to talk about delayed gratification?  Talk about picking a pitcher for fantasy baseball that was still in the minors at the start of the season.  But, when he makes his debut, he strikes out 14, hits 100MPH on numerous pitches, walks ZERO, and gets the W.  Congrats on that pick man, hope you started him!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Cohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Cohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 09:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trouble with delayed gratification is that if you overdo it, you die before the gratification comes.  Or even of you don&#039;t die, you get so decrepit that you can&#039;t enjoy what you might have enjoyed when you were younger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with delayed gratification is that if you overdo it, you die before the gratification comes.  Or even of you don&#8217;t die, you get so decrepit that you can&#8217;t enjoy what you might have enjoyed when you were younger.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Doug (#43)
&quot;Employers don’t pay for “hard work.” They pay for results. The better the result, the better the pay.&quot;
Very true.  And that is why expectations should change with age.  It is not any more helpful to praise your teenager just for giving it a shot than it is to punish your preschooler for ignorance.  Age-appropriate rewards matter.  

But if you want a teenager who will push themselves, and work hard, and produce good results - of the meaningful kind, it helps to treat a young child differently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doug (#43)<br />
&#8220;Employers don’t pay for “hard work.” They pay for results. The better the result, the better the pay.&#8221;<br />
Very true.  And that is why expectations should change with age.  It is not any more helpful to praise your teenager just for giving it a shot than it is to punish your preschooler for ignorance.  Age-appropriate rewards matter.  </p>
<p>But if you want a teenager who will push themselves, and work hard, and produce good results &#8211; of the meaningful kind, it helps to treat a young child differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dweck also wrote a book that drew from her findings, called &quot;Mindset: The New Psychology of Success.&quot; Her premise is that people either have a Fixed Mindset, believing that they have a fixed level of intelligence or talent which their future possibilities of success are tied to; or a Growth Mindset, believing that they can apply their own efforts toward building intelligence or building skills and abilities, so that their future success is directly tied to their efforts, not whatever &quot;gifts&quot; they were born with.

Similar to the &quot;10,000-hour Rule&quot; from Malcom Gladwell&#039;s book, &quot;Outliers,&quot; proposing that the key to success in any field is to spend 10,000 hours practicing the specific tasks of that field. He points to The Beatles playing 1200 gigs during 4 years in Germany before returning to England and becoming stars, and Bill Gates getting on a school computer at 13 to begin years and years of practice at programming.

It&#039;s not about ignoring results or performance. It&#039;s about praising the results or the performance as the outcome of effort, and not as the outcome of inherent intelligence or talent or gifts.

Gifts may give you a head-start, but only consistent long-term effort and growth will lead to lasting success. Praising gifts actually discourages effort and growth, and can shutdown a person&#039;s potential, whether they&#039;re a kid or an adult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dweck also wrote a book that drew from her findings, called &#8220;Mindset: The New Psychology of Success.&#8221; Her premise is that people either have a Fixed Mindset, believing that they have a fixed level of intelligence or talent which their future possibilities of success are tied to; or a Growth Mindset, believing that they can apply their own efforts toward building intelligence or building skills and abilities, so that their future success is directly tied to their efforts, not whatever &#8220;gifts&#8221; they were born with.</p>
<p>Similar to the &#8220;10,000-hour Rule&#8221; from Malcom Gladwell&#8217;s book, &#8220;Outliers,&#8221; proposing that the key to success in any field is to spend 10,000 hours practicing the specific tasks of that field. He points to The Beatles playing 1200 gigs during 4 years in Germany before returning to England and becoming stars, and Bill Gates getting on a school computer at 13 to begin years and years of practice at programming.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about ignoring results or performance. It&#8217;s about praising the results or the performance as the outcome of effort, and not as the outcome of inherent intelligence or talent or gifts.</p>
<p>Gifts may give you a head-start, but only consistent long-term effort and growth will lead to lasting success. Praising gifts actually discourages effort and growth, and can shutdown a person&#8217;s potential, whether they&#8217;re a kid or an adult.</p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 01:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kai #18: The study you mentioned wasn&#039;t actually about praising students&#039; efforts vs. praising *results* - it was praising effort vs. praising *intelligence.* 

Focusing on the result wasn&#039;t the problem.  Praising in a way that sent kids the message that their good results had come from an inherent quality (intelligence) that they were just born with (and was therefore out of their control or capacity to change) was detrimental to their future success, leading them to become risk-averse in order to maintain the perception of their gift; while praising them for their hard work encouraged them to seek out challenges and opportunities to work harder, try again, persist, and grow.

It was a ten-year study of NY fifth-graders done by psychologist Carol Dweck&#039;s team at Columbia, which concluded that praising kids for intelligence or other &quot;gifts&quot; or &quot;talents&quot; was detrimental to them, as they tended to then avoid challenges and be crushed by failures, while kids who were praised for their efforts and the work they had done tended to seek out greater challenges and see failures as proof that they needed to try harder, instead of proof that they weren&#039;t smart after all. 

See &quot;The Inverse Power of Praise&quot; which appears in New York Magazine and then in the book &quot;NutureShock&quot; (both by Po Bronson with Ashley Merryman).

That study and other work along the same lines concluded that for praise to be effective (that is, to encourage further growth, future good behavior, future good results) it needs to be specific, tied to the effort or process that brought about the result, not just to the result itself, and it has to be sincere and not overdone or overly-frequent.

The experiment that Kai was referring to actually went like this:

Fifth graders were individually given a non-verbal IQ test, using puzzles that were easy enough that the students were expected to do well. The students would finish the puzzles easily, and then the research assistant would tell them their IQ score and give them one line of praise, either saying that the student &quot;must be smart at this&quot;, or saying that the student &quot;must have worked really hard.&quot; 

When it was time for a 2nd test, the students were given a choice of 2 tests. They were told they they could take a more difficult test that they&#039;d learn a lot from attempting, or a test that was as easy as the first. The majority of kids praised for intelligence chose the easy test, while 90% of kids praised for effort chose the harder test.

In a later round, they weren&#039;t given a choice. All the kids were given a test that was actually 2 grade-levels ahead and that they were all expected to do poorly on (but they weren&#039;t told anything about it). Kids praised for effort in the first round tended to assume that they got poor results this time because they hadn&#039;t focused hard enough, while kids praised for intelligence in the first round tended to see their poor result this time as evidence that they weren&#039;t actually smart after all. 

Then they were all given a final test geared to be as easy as the first. Kids praised for effort in the first round improved their score by 30% this time on this similar test, while kids praised for intelligence in the first round did about 20% worse than they&#039;d done before.

They&#039;ve repeated the experiments and found that the effects held true across socioeconomic classes, were most pronounced in the brightest girls, and even affected preschoolers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kai #18: The study you mentioned wasn&#8217;t actually about praising students&#8217; efforts vs. praising *results* &#8211; it was praising effort vs. praising *intelligence.* </p>
<p>Focusing on the result wasn&#8217;t the problem.  Praising in a way that sent kids the message that their good results had come from an inherent quality (intelligence) that they were just born with (and was therefore out of their control or capacity to change) was detrimental to their future success, leading them to become risk-averse in order to maintain the perception of their gift; while praising them for their hard work encouraged them to seek out challenges and opportunities to work harder, try again, persist, and grow.</p>
<p>It was a ten-year study of NY fifth-graders done by psychologist Carol Dweck&#8217;s team at Columbia, which concluded that praising kids for intelligence or other &#8220;gifts&#8221; or &#8220;talents&#8221; was detrimental to them, as they tended to then avoid challenges and be crushed by failures, while kids who were praised for their efforts and the work they had done tended to seek out greater challenges and see failures as proof that they needed to try harder, instead of proof that they weren&#8217;t smart after all. </p>
<p>See &#8220;The Inverse Power of Praise&#8221; which appears in New York Magazine and then in the book &#8220;NutureShock&#8221; (both by Po Bronson with Ashley Merryman).</p>
<p>That study and other work along the same lines concluded that for praise to be effective (that is, to encourage further growth, future good behavior, future good results) it needs to be specific, tied to the effort or process that brought about the result, not just to the result itself, and it has to be sincere and not overdone or overly-frequent.</p>
<p>The experiment that Kai was referring to actually went like this:</p>
<p>Fifth graders were individually given a non-verbal IQ test, using puzzles that were easy enough that the students were expected to do well. The students would finish the puzzles easily, and then the research assistant would tell them their IQ score and give them one line of praise, either saying that the student &#8220;must be smart at this&#8221;, or saying that the student &#8220;must have worked really hard.&#8221; </p>
<p>When it was time for a 2nd test, the students were given a choice of 2 tests. They were told they they could take a more difficult test that they&#8217;d learn a lot from attempting, or a test that was as easy as the first. The majority of kids praised for intelligence chose the easy test, while 90% of kids praised for effort chose the harder test.</p>
<p>In a later round, they weren&#8217;t given a choice. All the kids were given a test that was actually 2 grade-levels ahead and that they were all expected to do poorly on (but they weren&#8217;t told anything about it). Kids praised for effort in the first round tended to assume that they got poor results this time because they hadn&#8217;t focused hard enough, while kids praised for intelligence in the first round tended to see their poor result this time as evidence that they weren&#8217;t actually smart after all. </p>
<p>Then they were all given a final test geared to be as easy as the first. Kids praised for effort in the first round improved their score by 30% this time on this similar test, while kids praised for intelligence in the first round did about 20% worse than they&#8217;d done before.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve repeated the experiments and found that the effects held true across socioeconomic classes, were most pronounced in the brightest girls, and even affected preschoolers.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Jones</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Kevin #16:  For the record, I absolutely loved LOST and instantly gratified myself by watching the first four seasons on Netflix discs at the rate of 1 or 2 per evening.  Then I had to delay my gratification by waiting a week between each episode and several months between each season during Seasons 5 and 6.  It was one of very few TV shows that I truly enjoyed and made a point to watch.  But oh how I wish it had been a novel first.  Again, reading is just MY preference and I find I get more satisfaction from it than watching TV or movies.  For those who get more out of TV, I say go for it.  There&#039;s room in this world for both, I think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kevin #16:  For the record, I absolutely loved LOST and instantly gratified myself by watching the first four seasons on Netflix discs at the rate of 1 or 2 per evening.  Then I had to delay my gratification by waiting a week between each episode and several months between each season during Seasons 5 and 6.  It was one of very few TV shows that I truly enjoyed and made a point to watch.  But oh how I wish it had been a novel first.  Again, reading is just MY preference and I find I get more satisfaction from it than watching TV or movies.  For those who get more out of TV, I say go for it.  There&#8217;s room in this world for both, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/08/delayed-gratification-and-children/#comment-914164</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I intend to reward hard work and results.  A four-year old gets rewarded for hard work because he doesn&#039;t know any better about which plants are weeds and which are flowers.  Much like you don&#039;t scold a dog a day after it does its business in the living room.

But if I reward my 15 year old for &quot;effort&quot; when he has plenty of education to understand what a flower is versus what a weed is . . . I&#039;m gonna be rewarding someone who doesn&#039;t get the results that he needs to complete very important pieces of his life&#039;s work.  Here&#039;s a small fact:  Employers don&#039;t pay for &quot;hard work.&quot;  They pay for results.  The better the result, the better the pay.  Which is why engineers make more money than people working in a fast food joint.  Business owners need results in order to put food on their family&#039;s table, not &quot;hard work.&quot;  

And stop watching so much television.  It rots your brain.  Every time you change the channel, a kitten dies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I intend to reward hard work and results.  A four-year old gets rewarded for hard work because he doesn&#8217;t know any better about which plants are weeds and which are flowers.  Much like you don&#8217;t scold a dog a day after it does its business in the living room.</p>
<p>But if I reward my 15 year old for &#8220;effort&#8221; when he has plenty of education to understand what a flower is versus what a weed is . . . I&#8217;m gonna be rewarding someone who doesn&#8217;t get the results that he needs to complete very important pieces of his life&#8217;s work.  Here&#8217;s a small fact:  Employers don&#8217;t pay for &#8220;hard work.&#8221;  They pay for results.  The better the result, the better the pay.  Which is why engineers make more money than people working in a fast food joint.  Business owners need results in order to put food on their family&#8217;s table, not &#8220;hard work.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And stop watching so much television.  It rots your brain.  Every time you change the channel, a kitten dies.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think book vs tv is really delayed gratification but my real question is what the 2 year old says when she sees her brother get two m&amp;ms. Does she whine for more, does she understand or does she get some anyway b/c she looks cute? (I only have experience with two dogs and you better have two treats each time!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think book vs tv is really delayed gratification but my real question is what the 2 year old says when she sees her brother get two m&amp;ms. Does she whine for more, does she understand or does she get some anyway b/c she looks cute? (I only have experience with two dogs and you better have two treats each time!)</p>
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		<title>By: Ajtacka</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To build on what Kai (#18) said, I was reading about the same or a very similar study a few days ago, in the book &quot;What the dog saw&quot;, by Malcolm Gladwell. Thoroughly recommended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To build on what Kai (#18) said, I was reading about the same or a very similar study a few days ago, in the book &#8220;What the dog saw&#8221;, by Malcolm Gladwell. Thoroughly recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: marta</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with the others on the &quot;book vs TV&quot; thing. I think watching Mad Men, or The West Wing contributes a lot more to my &quot;personal growth&quot; (ugh) than reading Twilight or the latest Dan Brown. Oh, but you meant reading *good* books*! News flash: not all TV shows are junk either.

FWIW, I am more of a reader than a Tv watcher. But I do both, and I am getting a tad tired of your constant harping on TV. 

I am not going to touch on the delayed gratification stuff, this post doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense. I did spot a lonely sentence fragment somewhere...

PROTIP: integrate proofreading and editing into the &quot;project planning&quot; for blog posts. I think those are important steps, you know.

Or, in other words: &quot;Hey Trent, check this out!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the others on the &#8220;book vs TV&#8221; thing. I think watching Mad Men, or The West Wing contributes a lot more to my &#8220;personal growth&#8221; (ugh) than reading Twilight or the latest Dan Brown. Oh, but you meant reading *good* books*! News flash: not all TV shows are junk either.</p>
<p>FWIW, I am more of a reader than a Tv watcher. But I do both, and I am getting a tad tired of your constant harping on TV. </p>
<p>I am not going to touch on the delayed gratification stuff, this post doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense. I did spot a lonely sentence fragment somewhere&#8230;</p>
<p>PROTIP: integrate proofreading and editing into the &#8220;project planning&#8221; for blog posts. I think those are important steps, you know.</p>
<p>Or, in other words: &#8220;Hey Trent, check this out!&#8221;</p>
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