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		<title>By: Brenda W.</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/26/askers-guessers-and-personal-finance/#comment-916608</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 14:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this post as enlightening as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/07/28/makers-and-managers-what-you-are-and-how-it-can-help-your-career/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Makers and Managers&lt;/a&gt; post a while back!

As a through and through Asker who was born into a Guesser family, I never could figure out all the &quot;putting out feelers&quot; thing ... total waste of time it seemed to me, plus I would never be clear on just WHAT was being asked for/wanted/guessed at.

If I am interacting with an acquaintance or even a close friend who I feel is uncomfortable with direct requests (NOW I know why ... they&#039;re a Guesser), I preface my request with &quot;You know me ... I ask for anything, and &quot;No&quot; is always an option&quot;, and then I make my request.  

And unless I&#039;m NOT reading between the lines well, this seems to work well for both me and the person I am speaking with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this post as enlightening as the <a href="http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/07/28/makers-and-managers-what-you-are-and-how-it-can-help-your-career/" rel="nofollow">Makers and Managers</a> post a while back!</p>
<p>As a through and through Asker who was born into a Guesser family, I never could figure out all the &#8220;putting out feelers&#8221; thing &#8230; total waste of time it seemed to me, plus I would never be clear on just WHAT was being asked for/wanted/guessed at.</p>
<p>If I am interacting with an acquaintance or even a close friend who I feel is uncomfortable with direct requests (NOW I know why &#8230; they&#8217;re a Guesser), I preface my request with &#8220;You know me &#8230; I ask for anything, and &#8220;No&#8221; is always an option&#8221;, and then I make my request.  </p>
<p>And unless I&#8217;m NOT reading between the lines well, this seems to work well for both me and the person I am speaking with.</p>
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		<title>By: BtA</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/26/askers-guessers-and-personal-finance/#comment-916533</link>
		<dc:creator>BtA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I utterly identify with the guesser!  I was raised in Japan by a nanny before moving here, and I don&#039;t remember asking anything even of my parents until I was fourteen or so, it&#039;s so ingrained.  

I play an online game where you can buy virtual items with real cash - and I don&#039;t often, for obvious reasons, but budget a small amount for it in my play budget.  You can also trade items if you&#039;re tired of them or bought a &quot;mystery&quot; item that didn&#039;t give the result you wanted.  I constantly have people popping up wanting to trade something they paid $2 for against something I paid $6 for (and gave up StarBucks for two weeks&#039; one-day splurge to afford), and I&#039;m sure they&#039;re thinking &quot;oh, I&#039;ll just try and see if they agree,&quot; but they really irk me especially when I get four in a row and it *does* pain me to turn down an offer.  If someone makes me a series of patently unfair offers that don&#039;t take my needs into consideration, I will refuse their friend requests and sometimes even block them so I don&#039;t have to keep going through it.  

Which ties straight into both the two-tits-for-one-tat research (effective relationship/games trust negotiators typically give cooperative effort two tries even if given an unfair response once, then switch to returning the behavior they are shown by the other party if the &quot;tat&quot; continues to be negative), and also into recent research on the dynamics of sharing that&#039;s shown when two people are given $10 and one is told they can choose to divide it in any way they choose, the passive receiver will often reject a split which is patently unfair even if it ultimately means that neither ultimately receives anything.  

I think the Askers, if they exhibit sufficient insensitivity to their trade partner, risk both the partner switching to the same approach or the partner withdrawing entirely, so in many professions this could be a career damager.  Some professions may better for Askers - like law?  Some professions may attract too many of them - I think there&#039;s a reason car dealers have a bad reputation for inconsideration of their customers&#039; real needs and it might be because too many are too far down the Asker scale.  

On the other hand, being as much of a Guesser as I am is certainly a handicap in this society - I often read people much more clearly than my friends and can respond to their emotional needs well as a result, great for my computer training and assistance job and probably great if I went into counseling, teaching or other supportive roles.  But how does that stack up against the fact that I know I&#039;ve lost potential raises and promotions by being too discreet about my desire for them - or by taking the time for a trip to get a genuine turquoise necklace I know will make my mother in law happy even when I know it will also make me miss the deadline to put in my resume for a new job?  And it&#039;s plain stupid to go through as much stress as I do about what I perceive as insulting, degrading, arrogant or humiliating demands to which I have to somehow explain why I don&#039;t deserve to be insulted, degraded, provoked or humiliated - leaving me feeling really defensive.  Thankfully I&#039;ve gotten over the major passive-aggressive relationship facet of this with decades of experience and my ever-so-American husband and I have a pretty good balance, but it took a really long time to find the most comfortable boundaries between my Japanese trained side and my American trained side in a variety of areas, and it&#039;s still emotionally straining to have to set a line and hold it when someone pushes.  I&#039;ve felt for some time that people with multicultural upbringings are best for diplomatic and international negotiation positions because of their sensitivities to multiple cultural positions on this kind of question, as long as they&#039;re able to find that balance effectively they become better cultural translators as much as monetary or political negotiators.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I utterly identify with the guesser!  I was raised in Japan by a nanny before moving here, and I don&#8217;t remember asking anything even of my parents until I was fourteen or so, it&#8217;s so ingrained.  </p>
<p>I play an online game where you can buy virtual items with real cash &#8211; and I don&#8217;t often, for obvious reasons, but budget a small amount for it in my play budget.  You can also trade items if you&#8217;re tired of them or bought a &#8220;mystery&#8221; item that didn&#8217;t give the result you wanted.  I constantly have people popping up wanting to trade something they paid $2 for against something I paid $6 for (and gave up StarBucks for two weeks&#8217; one-day splurge to afford), and I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re thinking &#8220;oh, I&#8217;ll just try and see if they agree,&#8221; but they really irk me especially when I get four in a row and it *does* pain me to turn down an offer.  If someone makes me a series of patently unfair offers that don&#8217;t take my needs into consideration, I will refuse their friend requests and sometimes even block them so I don&#8217;t have to keep going through it.  </p>
<p>Which ties straight into both the two-tits-for-one-tat research (effective relationship/games trust negotiators typically give cooperative effort two tries even if given an unfair response once, then switch to returning the behavior they are shown by the other party if the &#8220;tat&#8221; continues to be negative), and also into recent research on the dynamics of sharing that&#8217;s shown when two people are given $10 and one is told they can choose to divide it in any way they choose, the passive receiver will often reject a split which is patently unfair even if it ultimately means that neither ultimately receives anything.  </p>
<p>I think the Askers, if they exhibit sufficient insensitivity to their trade partner, risk both the partner switching to the same approach or the partner withdrawing entirely, so in many professions this could be a career damager.  Some professions may better for Askers &#8211; like law?  Some professions may attract too many of them &#8211; I think there&#8217;s a reason car dealers have a bad reputation for inconsideration of their customers&#8217; real needs and it might be because too many are too far down the Asker scale.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, being as much of a Guesser as I am is certainly a handicap in this society &#8211; I often read people much more clearly than my friends and can respond to their emotional needs well as a result, great for my computer training and assistance job and probably great if I went into counseling, teaching or other supportive roles.  But how does that stack up against the fact that I know I&#8217;ve lost potential raises and promotions by being too discreet about my desire for them &#8211; or by taking the time for a trip to get a genuine turquoise necklace I know will make my mother in law happy even when I know it will also make me miss the deadline to put in my resume for a new job?  And it&#8217;s plain stupid to go through as much stress as I do about what I perceive as insulting, degrading, arrogant or humiliating demands to which I have to somehow explain why I don&#8217;t deserve to be insulted, degraded, provoked or humiliated &#8211; leaving me feeling really defensive.  Thankfully I&#8217;ve gotten over the major passive-aggressive relationship facet of this with decades of experience and my ever-so-American husband and I have a pretty good balance, but it took a really long time to find the most comfortable boundaries between my Japanese trained side and my American trained side in a variety of areas, and it&#8217;s still emotionally straining to have to set a line and hold it when someone pushes.  I&#8217;ve felt for some time that people with multicultural upbringings are best for diplomatic and international negotiation positions because of their sensitivities to multiple cultural positions on this kind of question, as long as they&#8217;re able to find that balance effectively they become better cultural translators as much as monetary or political negotiators.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/26/askers-guessers-and-personal-finance/#comment-916320</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: #19.  I wouldn&#039;t know, actually.  I&#039;m a tried &amp; true guesser, thus the direct &quot;no&quot; doesn&#039;t come easily (or at all).  I can say &quot;ooh, I wouldn&#039;t know how to help you with that&quot;, but just &quot;no&quot;.  It&#039;s just highly unlikely to happen at this point.

To the poster that said &quot;if it feels funny don&#039;t ask&quot;, the thing is that askers &amp; guessers have dramatically different points at which it &quot;feels funny&quot;.

Interesting post &amp; discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: #19.  I wouldn&#8217;t know, actually.  I&#8217;m a tried &amp; true guesser, thus the direct &#8220;no&#8221; doesn&#8217;t come easily (or at all).  I can say &#8220;ooh, I wouldn&#8217;t know how to help you with that&#8221;, but just &#8220;no&#8221;.  It&#8217;s just highly unlikely to happen at this point.</p>
<p>To the poster that said &#8220;if it feels funny don&#8217;t ask&#8221;, the thing is that askers &amp; guessers have dramatically different points at which it &#8220;feels funny&#8221;.</p>
<p>Interesting post &amp; discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man. I like to think there&#039;s some middle ground between being a pushy demanding &quot;asker&quot; and a irritating passive aggressive &quot;guesser.&quot; When did we stop being able to communication openly and clearly AND politely, like reasonable adults?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man. I like to think there&#8217;s some middle ground between being a pushy demanding &#8220;asker&#8221; and a irritating passive aggressive &#8220;guesser.&#8221; When did we stop being able to communication openly and clearly AND politely, like reasonable adults?</p>
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		<title>By: kristine</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/26/askers-guessers-and-personal-finance/#comment-916142</link>
		<dc:creator>kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 04:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can be either is different social situations. At home, with my hubby, I am as=n asker, and he a guesser. Negotiating a deal that will save my family money? I am an asker. In business, a guesser. In friendships, a guesser. I actually dropped a friend because it seemed she wanted something from me every time I saw her-for years! A good rule of thumb- if you feel funny asking, don&#039;t ask. Go with your instincts.

“act like a Guesser around people you’ll socially interact with over time…That way, you avoid destroying any social relationships just as they’re beginning to bloom” This implies that making requests could damage the relationship. If the request were in line with the depth of the friendship, it would not matter. If it&#039;s not, a better friend might tolerate it or help, but not repeatedly. IMHO, it always rude to ask an unnecessary favor of someone you know will have a hard time saying no, even if they really want to.

#6 Rob. I agree about the &quot;cash-back&quot; seeded registry being a breach of trust. If you tell me you want something, but that&#039;s not true, you are lying to me. It kind of made me wonder if that wish list of games Trent has for gifts is really a well for returns, and an indirect way to accept cash. I do not think so, but  as he has no moral problem with such behavior, it makes all gift ideas suspect. As I imagine it would for anyone who was revealed to engage in this less-than-honest money-maker. People do not appreciate being unwitting participants in a scheme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can be either is different social situations. At home, with my hubby, I am as=n asker, and he a guesser. Negotiating a deal that will save my family money? I am an asker. In business, a guesser. In friendships, a guesser. I actually dropped a friend because it seemed she wanted something from me every time I saw her-for years! A good rule of thumb- if you feel funny asking, don&#8217;t ask. Go with your instincts.</p>
<p>“act like a Guesser around people you’ll socially interact with over time…That way, you avoid destroying any social relationships just as they’re beginning to bloom” This implies that making requests could damage the relationship. If the request were in line with the depth of the friendship, it would not matter. If it&#8217;s not, a better friend might tolerate it or help, but not repeatedly. IMHO, it always rude to ask an unnecessary favor of someone you know will have a hard time saying no, even if they really want to.</p>
<p>#6 Rob. I agree about the &#8220;cash-back&#8221; seeded registry being a breach of trust. If you tell me you want something, but that&#8217;s not true, you are lying to me. It kind of made me wonder if that wish list of games Trent has for gifts is really a well for returns, and an indirect way to accept cash. I do not think so, but  as he has no moral problem with such behavior, it makes all gift ideas suspect. As I imagine it would for anyone who was revealed to engage in this less-than-honest money-maker. People do not appreciate being unwitting participants in a scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should mention that this incident occurred in Egypt and he is from England, hence the two cultures compared.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should mention that this incident occurred in Egypt and he is from England, hence the two cultures compared.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always, Waugh says it best, observing the cultural roots of the differences between askers and makers:

&quot;As we rowed back across the harbour,[...]my meditations were disturbed by a vigorous attempt on the part of the two oarsmen to blackmail me into increasing the price we had already agreed upon for the journey.  They stopped rowing and we drifted about in the dark, arguing. [...] In the end they started rowing again and, when we reached the shore, I gave them their original price.  It was interesting to notice that they bore no malice about it, but sent me away with smiles and bows and the entreaty that I would use their boat again.  This very sensible attitude seemed to show the advantages of not having an inherited Protestant conscience.  When an Englishman attempts to be extortionate and fails, he keeps up his grumble until one is out of earshot, and, I believe, does bear a genuine personal grudge against one for the rest of that day.  He does not admit, even to himself, that he was &quot;trying it on&quot; or accept defeat with good grace.  Arabs and, I imagine, most Oriental races, have no conception of the &quot;fair price&quot; or of absolute values of exchange.  The English boatman prefers to kick his heels day after day on the quay-side, rather than take less for his labour than he has convinced himself is right.  He very rarely attempts to get more, even if his passengers look rich and their need for his service acute.  When he does, it is only after convincing himself that the increased demand is actually the normal one.  When he is caught out his conclusion is that his customer was no gentleman to make such a fuss about a shilling.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, Waugh says it best, observing the cultural roots of the differences between askers and makers:</p>
<p>&#8220;As we rowed back across the harbour,[...]my meditations were disturbed by a vigorous attempt on the part of the two oarsmen to blackmail me into increasing the price we had already agreed upon for the journey.  They stopped rowing and we drifted about in the dark, arguing. [...] In the end they started rowing again and, when we reached the shore, I gave them their original price.  It was interesting to notice that they bore no malice about it, but sent me away with smiles and bows and the entreaty that I would use their boat again.  This very sensible attitude seemed to show the advantages of not having an inherited Protestant conscience.  When an Englishman attempts to be extortionate and fails, he keeps up his grumble until one is out of earshot, and, I believe, does bear a genuine personal grudge against one for the rest of that day.  He does not admit, even to himself, that he was &#8220;trying it on&#8221; or accept defeat with good grace.  Arabs and, I imagine, most Oriental races, have no conception of the &#8220;fair price&#8221; or of absolute values of exchange.  The English boatman prefers to kick his heels day after day on the quay-side, rather than take less for his labour than he has convinced himself is right.  He very rarely attempts to get more, even if his passengers look rich and their need for his service acute.  When he does, it is only after convincing himself that the increased demand is actually the normal one.  When he is caught out his conclusion is that his customer was no gentleman to make such a fuss about a shilling.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post reminds me of my mom&#039;s favorite saying &quot;if you don&#039;t ask, you don&#039;t get&quot;.  Best example, we were shopping for furniture in a store that also had some very nice silk floral arrangements($70-$100).  We purchased a coffee table and end table, and my mom said &quot;so are you going to throw in a flower arrangement for free?&quot; response &quot;will you tell others about our store&quot; &quot;yes&quot;. I now have a beautiful arrangement. And yet, growing up with an asker, I think of myself more of a guesser.  If I were shopping alone, I would have never thought or dared to ask for something for free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post reminds me of my mom&#8217;s favorite saying &#8220;if you don&#8217;t ask, you don&#8217;t get&#8221;.  Best example, we were shopping for furniture in a store that also had some very nice silk floral arrangements($70-$100).  We purchased a coffee table and end table, and my mom said &#8220;so are you going to throw in a flower arrangement for free?&#8221; response &#8220;will you tell others about our store&#8221; &#8220;yes&#8221;. I now have a beautiful arrangement. And yet, growing up with an asker, I think of myself more of a guesser.  If I were shopping alone, I would have never thought or dared to ask for something for free.</p>
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		<title>By: sundog</title>
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		<dc:creator>sundog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take it then that Wall Street are Askers? I am a hard core guesser. I was raised in a very poor family, and you performed certain acts or tasks for people because they were elders or kin, or something like that. Other times you did those things as acts of charity. But I can say that I {we} became very suspicious and turned off by someone who appeared to be whole in body and mind who asked for help on matters when it was clear that they didn&#039;t need it, they just wanted it. This is especially true if it appeared that they didn&#039;t want to get their hands dirty literally or proverbially. 
Thanks for the excellent insight! 
This should be put in the Canon--somewhere near Genesis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it then that Wall Street are Askers? I am a hard core guesser. I was raised in a very poor family, and you performed certain acts or tasks for people because they were elders or kin, or something like that. Other times you did those things as acts of charity. But I can say that I {we} became very suspicious and turned off by someone who appeared to be whole in body and mind who asked for help on matters when it was clear that they didn&#8217;t need it, they just wanted it. This is especially true if it appeared that they didn&#8217;t want to get their hands dirty literally or proverbially.<br />
Thanks for the excellent insight!<br />
This should be put in the Canon&#8211;somewhere near Genesis.</p>
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		<title>By: AtWorkWithAnAsker</title>
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		<dc:creator>AtWorkWithAnAsker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This makes SO MUCH SENSE!  My boss is totally an Asker and it explains so much.  I am definitely a Guesser and I never understand why we have such trouble communicating.  Now I know and I can go into further interactions with new knowledge - Thank you, TRENT! :-D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes SO MUCH SENSE!  My boss is totally an Asker and it explains so much.  I am definitely a Guesser and I never understand why we have such trouble communicating.  Now I know and I can go into further interactions with new knowledge &#8211; Thank you, TRENT! :-D</p>
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		<title>By: DCexpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DCexpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@15-What if you just said &quot;no&quot; to your teacher&#039;s requests?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15-What if you just said &#8220;no&#8221; to your teacher&#8217;s requests?</p>
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		<title>By: Nansuelee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nansuelee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you really think the neighbor was serious?  I have certainly after a long day asked questions out loud such as this, be it dinner, the laundry or other chores.  I most deffinatly did not expect the person listening to fall over me on their way to do my bidding.  Sometimes folks just need to say such things, fully expecting nothing will come of it. It&#039;s more of a way to say, &quot;I&#039;m pooped, there is more to do and I wish I was not the one to get it done.&quot; 
I would rather go with Wren and be in the &quot;What can I do for others?&quot; group. It is a much better way to live, if you see a need you can fulfill for someone, whether they have asked or not, just do it.   When you live in this way you will be surprised how many times others help you out with out having to be asked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really think the neighbor was serious?  I have certainly after a long day asked questions out loud such as this, be it dinner, the laundry or other chores.  I most deffinatly did not expect the person listening to fall over me on their way to do my bidding.  Sometimes folks just need to say such things, fully expecting nothing will come of it. It&#8217;s more of a way to say, &#8220;I&#8217;m pooped, there is more to do and I wish I was not the one to get it done.&#8221;<br />
I would rather go with Wren and be in the &#8220;What can I do for others?&#8221; group. It is a much better way to live, if you see a need you can fulfill for someone, whether they have asked or not, just do it.   When you live in this way you will be surprised how many times others help you out with out having to be asked.</p>
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		<title>By: LMR</title>
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		<dc:creator>LMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Guardian writer stated, &quot;So say no, and see what happens. Nothing will.&quot; This person obviously never dealt with people like my mother or one of my former supervisors with whom saying &quot;no&quot; would rain down holy hellfire. So I guess this theory leaves at lease one personality type out. There&#039;s the Askers, the Guessers, and the By-God-You-Better-Do-What-I-Demand-Or-Else-ers. And good luck getting what you need if you ask anything of these people. 
No, I do not think you can just assume that a person that requests something of you is just an Asker. That person may actually be very selfish and self-absorbed, so be prepared for this possibility if you choose to say &quot;no.&quot; The good thing is that you only have to try it once to know. Good luck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Guardian writer stated, &#8220;So say no, and see what happens. Nothing will.&#8221; This person obviously never dealt with people like my mother or one of my former supervisors with whom saying &#8220;no&#8221; would rain down holy hellfire. So I guess this theory leaves at lease one personality type out. There&#8217;s the Askers, the Guessers, and the By-God-You-Better-Do-What-I-Demand-Or-Else-ers. And good luck getting what you need if you ask anything of these people.<br />
No, I do not think you can just assume that a person that requests something of you is just an Asker. That person may actually be very selfish and self-absorbed, so be prepared for this possibility if you choose to say &#8220;no.&#8221; The good thing is that you only have to try it once to know. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/26/askers-guessers-and-personal-finance/#comment-915977</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 00:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, after re-reading my comment, I think the thing that is most offensive about my Spanish teacher&#039;s methods is not the request itself, but rather the fact that it comes so early in the relationship. Well, that and the frequency of the requests.  She requests things that seem more appropriate requests of a friend rather than a student/someone whom you just met.  On the other had, she&#039;d give you the shirt off her back... if only you&#039;d ask.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, after re-reading my comment, I think the thing that is most offensive about my Spanish teacher&#8217;s methods is not the request itself, but rather the fact that it comes so early in the relationship. Well, that and the frequency of the requests.  She requests things that seem more appropriate requests of a friend rather than a student/someone whom you just met.  On the other had, she&#8217;d give you the shirt off her back&#8230; if only you&#8217;d ask.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 00:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post cracked me up b/c it totally reminds me of my Spanish teacher, who is 100% on the ask side of the spectrum.  Within minutes of meeting you (LITERALLY) she&#039;ll be trying to figure out where your talents lie so that she can ask for various forms of assistance.  I noticed this early on and (in true guesser form) have handled it passively by just not being that reliable.  From the sounds of the comments, the Askers on this forum would not appreciate that, considering it &quot;passive agressive behavior&quot;.  BUT, it enabled me to continue the relationship with her (which was financially profitable for her) whereas I have two friends who stopped taking classes with her because they simply couldn&#039;t say no and thus ended up fulfilling her petitions/demands extremely frequently.  Perhaps my method wasn&#039;t the straightforward / above board behavior that the Askers would like, but she did end up keeping the relationship and the business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post cracked me up b/c it totally reminds me of my Spanish teacher, who is 100% on the ask side of the spectrum.  Within minutes of meeting you (LITERALLY) she&#8217;ll be trying to figure out where your talents lie so that she can ask for various forms of assistance.  I noticed this early on and (in true guesser form) have handled it passively by just not being that reliable.  From the sounds of the comments, the Askers on this forum would not appreciate that, considering it &#8220;passive agressive behavior&#8221;.  BUT, it enabled me to continue the relationship with her (which was financially profitable for her) whereas I have two friends who stopped taking classes with her because they simply couldn&#8217;t say no and thus ended up fulfilling her petitions/demands extremely frequently.  Perhaps my method wasn&#8217;t the straightforward / above board behavior that the Askers would like, but she did end up keeping the relationship and the business.</p>
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		<title>By: Wren</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/06/26/askers-guessers-and-personal-finance/#comment-915970</link>
		<dc:creator>Wren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with putting people in two opposing categories it that it assumes there are only two boxes to stand in and no middle ground.  I think most people are somewhere in the middle.   Yeah, once in a while you’ll come across a pure “guesser” or a pure asker.  Depending on your point of view, a guess can be a polite, restrained person who prefers to be sefl-sufficient until they absolutely must reach out for help or they can be a “passive-aggressive” manipulator.  And an asker can be a upfront candid optimist or a completely self-centered, entitled, free-loading jerk.   (Guess it’s not hard to tell what my opinion is on “pure” askers.)    The reality is probably that we are all a combination of the two, depending on circumstances.   The interesting thing to me is that this whole “asker/guesser” model is built on the question “What can you get other people to do for you?”   It doesn’t really work when you apply it to “What can you do for someone else?” 

Oh, wait, I forgot -- we&#039;re not supposed to think like that anymore.  It&#039;s all supposed to be about getting everything we can out of everyone else with the least effort.  Right.  I keep forgetting that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with putting people in two opposing categories it that it assumes there are only two boxes to stand in and no middle ground.  I think most people are somewhere in the middle.   Yeah, once in a while you’ll come across a pure “guesser” or a pure asker.  Depending on your point of view, a guess can be a polite, restrained person who prefers to be sefl-sufficient until they absolutely must reach out for help or they can be a “passive-aggressive” manipulator.  And an asker can be a upfront candid optimist or a completely self-centered, entitled, free-loading jerk.   (Guess it’s not hard to tell what my opinion is on “pure” askers.)    The reality is probably that we are all a combination of the two, depending on circumstances.   The interesting thing to me is that this whole “asker/guesser” model is built on the question “What can you get other people to do for you?”   It doesn’t really work when you apply it to “What can you do for someone else?” </p>
<p>Oh, wait, I forgot &#8212; we&#8217;re not supposed to think like that anymore.  It&#8217;s all supposed to be about getting everything we can out of everyone else with the least effort.  Right.  I keep forgetting that.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a born-and-bred Guesser, I used to be horrified by &quot;outrageous&quot; requests from Askers.  I used to feel the need to formally decline; giving reasons or making excuses.  This was a big strain on me.  

Then I noticed someone who handled these kind of requests in a humorous, very informal way.  She&#039;d laugh and say, &quot;Are you nuts?!  I can&#039;t do your mending; I have my own mending I&#039;m not doing!&quot;  Or she&#039;d do a childish kind of whine, &quot;I don&#039;t wanna!&quot; or say &quot;No way, man! I&#039;ve got plans for ...&quot;  The situation was handled more the way you did things when you were kids, resulting in no tension.  Everyone would laugh and move on to the next subject.  

I now use this method and it works great.  If Askers are going outside the &quot;rules&quot; (actually, Guessers&#039; rules), then you are allowed to do the same when you respond to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a born-and-bred Guesser, I used to be horrified by &#8220;outrageous&#8221; requests from Askers.  I used to feel the need to formally decline; giving reasons or making excuses.  This was a big strain on me.  </p>
<p>Then I noticed someone who handled these kind of requests in a humorous, very informal way.  She&#8217;d laugh and say, &#8220;Are you nuts?!  I can&#8217;t do your mending; I have my own mending I&#8217;m not doing!&#8221;  Or she&#8217;d do a childish kind of whine, &#8220;I don&#8217;t wanna!&#8221; or say &#8220;No way, man! I&#8217;ve got plans for &#8230;&#8221;  The situation was handled more the way you did things when you were kids, resulting in no tension.  Everyone would laugh and move on to the next subject.  </p>
<p>I now use this method and it works great.  If Askers are going outside the &#8220;rules&#8221; (actually, Guessers&#8217; rules), then you are allowed to do the same when you respond to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a guesser. I really enjoyed this article, it has given me a little more insight into understanding myself and another perspective to use when dealing with other people. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a guesser. I really enjoyed this article, it has given me a little more insight into understanding myself and another perspective to use when dealing with other people. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: bedilia</title>
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		<dc:creator>bedilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the whole ask vs. guess becomes very murky when the relationship is not an equal one, such as an employer and employee. The employee will almost never feel that it is okay to just say no when a question is asked by a supervisor/boss because there can be repercussions and consequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole ask vs. guess becomes very murky when the relationship is not an equal one, such as an employer and employee. The employee will almost never feel that it is okay to just say no when a question is asked by a supervisor/boss because there can be repercussions and consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I had read this article as a child.  

As an Asker who didn&#039;t even realize there were such creatures as Guessers until my 20s, learning how to deal with such people was a challenge.  What Trent and other Guessers see as subtlety, courtesy, etc., Askers are likely to see as murky, deceptive, manipulative, passive-aggressive or entitled.  Entitled because, as Trent said, when Guessers DO ask for something, they believe they have correctly gauged the reasonableness of the request, therefore expect to get it and resent not getting it.  In other words, they&#039;re not really asking, they&#039;re demanding.  An Asker accepts that the reasonableness of the request may be viewed differently by the other person and does not resent that reality.

Over the years I&#039;ve learned that in some situations, particularly with employees, I have to be overemphatic about what is an expectation and what is a request that may be turned down without consequences.  If it would help me for the employee to stay late, but I haven&#039;t made advance arrangements for that, I can&#039;t just say, &quot;Can you stay late to help me with this?&quot;  I have to say, &quot;It would help me out if you could stay late, but if you&#039;re too tired or have other plans or just don&#039;t feel like it, don&#039;t feel bad about saying no.  I&#039;ll survive.&quot;  

To me, all that extra verbiage is already a given in the very fact that I&#039;m asking a question, and not giving an order.  I feel kind of silly stating what, to me, is the obvious -- that a direct &quot;No&quot; is a perfectly acceptable answer to a direct question.  But such is the variety of human nature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had read this article as a child.  </p>
<p>As an Asker who didn&#8217;t even realize there were such creatures as Guessers until my 20s, learning how to deal with such people was a challenge.  What Trent and other Guessers see as subtlety, courtesy, etc., Askers are likely to see as murky, deceptive, manipulative, passive-aggressive or entitled.  Entitled because, as Trent said, when Guessers DO ask for something, they believe they have correctly gauged the reasonableness of the request, therefore expect to get it and resent not getting it.  In other words, they&#8217;re not really asking, they&#8217;re demanding.  An Asker accepts that the reasonableness of the request may be viewed differently by the other person and does not resent that reality.</p>
<p>Over the years I&#8217;ve learned that in some situations, particularly with employees, I have to be overemphatic about what is an expectation and what is a request that may be turned down without consequences.  If it would help me for the employee to stay late, but I haven&#8217;t made advance arrangements for that, I can&#8217;t just say, &#8220;Can you stay late to help me with this?&#8221;  I have to say, &#8220;It would help me out if you could stay late, but if you&#8217;re too tired or have other plans or just don&#8217;t feel like it, don&#8217;t feel bad about saying no.  I&#8217;ll survive.&#8221;  </p>
<p>To me, all that extra verbiage is already a given in the very fact that I&#8217;m asking a question, and not giving an order.  I feel kind of silly stating what, to me, is the obvious &#8212; that a direct &#8220;No&#8221; is a perfectly acceptable answer to a direct question.  But such is the variety of human nature.</p>
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