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	<title>Comments on: When Pride Gets in the Way of Success</title>
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		<title>By: KarenJ</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/03/22/when-pride-gets-in-the-way-of-success/#comment-942678</link>
		<dc:creator>KarenJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been in both situations.  When I got out of college in 1977, I couldn&#039;t find a job teaching, so I took a position as a fast food manager, a job I worked for 4 years.  I&#039;ve done just about anything you can imagine to earn money, including being a census taker and driving seniors to doctor appointments.  I think when you need to earn a living, there is no shame in doing whatever is necessary to support yourself and your family. When my husband left me, I couldn&#039;t get a temporary order for support so he systematically kept reducing my child support until I had no choice but to apply for food stamps.  It is not easy to accept help when you&#039;ve been self sufficient your whole life, but I had children to feed.  I was in graduate school and working two part-time jobs.  Fortunately, I finished school and got a job as a counselor, so I could support myself and keep a roof over our heads.  As long as you are doing your best, there is no reason you shouldn&#039;t take advantage of any help that is available to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been in both situations.  When I got out of college in 1977, I couldn&#8217;t find a job teaching, so I took a position as a fast food manager, a job I worked for 4 years.  I&#8217;ve done just about anything you can imagine to earn money, including being a census taker and driving seniors to doctor appointments.  I think when you need to earn a living, there is no shame in doing whatever is necessary to support yourself and your family. When my husband left me, I couldn&#8217;t get a temporary order for support so he systematically kept reducing my child support until I had no choice but to apply for food stamps.  It is not easy to accept help when you&#8217;ve been self sufficient your whole life, but I had children to feed.  I was in graduate school and working two part-time jobs.  Fortunately, I finished school and got a job as a counselor, so I could support myself and keep a roof over our heads.  As long as you are doing your best, there is no reason you shouldn&#8217;t take advantage of any help that is available to you.</p>
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		<title>By: AniVee</title>
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		<dc:creator>AniVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@#38 sylrayj and @#39 Tizzle are right! You should not be too proud to use the food bank if you need it, and then, when things are better, you DONATE regularly to the food banks to pay back the help received, and you can be proud to do so.

I&#039;m always amused (and annoyed) by people who are to &quot;proud&quot; to be a &quot;beggar&quot; and ask for a handout, (so they call it a &quot;loan&quot;) but then, when things get better, are NOT &quot;proud enough&quot; to pay it back!  

And, once again, I totally agree with @#30 deRuiter - I was a public sector (Fed. Govt.) employee and the vacation was 4 weeks a year, the pay raises were automatic (but not very large), the insurance was excellent (average co-payment was $10-12 for a specialist visit), the working conditions were very pleasant and there was a (small) pension waiting at age 55 or later.  There were many reasons for many of us in &quot;late middle age&quot; not to walk away.  It wasn&#039;t pride.  It was practicality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#38 sylrayj and @#39 Tizzle are right! You should not be too proud to use the food bank if you need it, and then, when things are better, you DONATE regularly to the food banks to pay back the help received, and you can be proud to do so.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always amused (and annoyed) by people who are to &#8220;proud&#8221; to be a &#8220;beggar&#8221; and ask for a handout, (so they call it a &#8220;loan&#8221;) but then, when things get better, are NOT &#8220;proud enough&#8221; to pay it back!  </p>
<p>And, once again, I totally agree with @#30 deRuiter &#8211; I was a public sector (Fed. Govt.) employee and the vacation was 4 weeks a year, the pay raises were automatic (but not very large), the insurance was excellent (average co-payment was $10-12 for a specialist visit), the working conditions were very pleasant and there was a (small) pension waiting at age 55 or later.  There were many reasons for many of us in &#8220;late middle age&#8221; not to walk away.  It wasn&#8217;t pride.  It was practicality.</p>
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		<title>By: Riki</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/03/22/when-pride-gets-in-the-way-of-success/#comment-942641</link>
		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m very fortunate in my life and have never needed to use the food bank . . . but these stories have just inspired me to donate.  Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very fortunate in my life and have never needed to use the food bank . . . but these stories have just inspired me to donate.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: nebula</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/03/22/when-pride-gets-in-the-way-of-success/#comment-942635</link>
		<dc:creator>nebula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think a sense of honor is a lot more important than a sense of pride  As long as you live an honorable life, you&#039;ll never have anything to be ashamed of, rich or poor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a sense of honor is a lot more important than a sense of pride  As long as you live an honorable life, you&#8217;ll never have anything to be ashamed of, rich or poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Tizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/03/22/when-pride-gets-in-the-way-of-success/#comment-942634</link>
		<dc:creator>Tizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To even get on food stamps (WA state), you have to make very little money. I&#039;m working a job right now that should be full time, but isn&#039;t. It does have potential. I&#039;ll reevaluate soon.

I just got on food stamps. They gave me $16/month, based on me making about $100 more than my rent. I might start going to the food bank, too, but it is hard to want to. I probably will cry after. It&#039;s depressing being this broke. 

But something I read by Trent a long time ago was this: if you have to use the food bank, do it. But contribute back to it when you can, and it&#039;ll even out your pride.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To even get on food stamps (WA state), you have to make very little money. I&#8217;m working a job right now that should be full time, but isn&#8217;t. It does have potential. I&#8217;ll reevaluate soon.</p>
<p>I just got on food stamps. They gave me $16/month, based on me making about $100 more than my rent. I might start going to the food bank, too, but it is hard to want to. I probably will cry after. It&#8217;s depressing being this broke. </p>
<p>But something I read by Trent a long time ago was this: if you have to use the food bank, do it. But contribute back to it when you can, and it&#8217;ll even out your pride.</p>
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		<title>By: sylrayj</title>
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		<dc:creator>sylrayj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first used the food bank, I cried.  It was not an experience I ever wanted to feel, and we had to go there so we could manage.

My mom and sister have since told me that they never ever donate to the food bank because the only people who use it are too busy spending their money on booze and smokes to bother.

We donate every week, 3 cans of reduced salt/reduced sugar vegetables because we can afford it and being on a special diet can be hard when you have to depend upon others contributing to a vague pool of nonperishable goods.  We&#039;ve donated for well over six years now, more than making up for the few months we&#039;d needed assistance.

The food bank is our chosen charity, because sometimes, if you can have more and better groceries, you can rally your time and remaining resources to find that job you need, and get back on track.  We got there - so can you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first used the food bank, I cried.  It was not an experience I ever wanted to feel, and we had to go there so we could manage.</p>
<p>My mom and sister have since told me that they never ever donate to the food bank because the only people who use it are too busy spending their money on booze and smokes to bother.</p>
<p>We donate every week, 3 cans of reduced salt/reduced sugar vegetables because we can afford it and being on a special diet can be hard when you have to depend upon others contributing to a vague pool of nonperishable goods.  We&#8217;ve donated for well over six years now, more than making up for the few months we&#8217;d needed assistance.</p>
<p>The food bank is our chosen charity, because sometimes, if you can have more and better groceries, you can rally your time and remaining resources to find that job you need, and get back on track.  We got there &#8211; so can you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I&#039;d like to see more posts on what happens to people emotionally and psychologically during those times when you have no money, no job, and limited prospects.  It&#039;s more than simply swallowing your pride.  How does one keep from being &quot;swallowed by the pit&quot; of depression or despair?  How does a person continue to see the possiblity of a brighter future and believe that they can still attain it?  Once you&#039;ve lived with things stripped down to the bare bones, it can color and change how you see the world and can sometimes squeeze out any vision of a different life.  How do we prevent that from happening to our friends and loved one or to ourselves?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;d like to see more posts on what happens to people emotionally and psychologically during those times when you have no money, no job, and limited prospects.  It&#8217;s more than simply swallowing your pride.  How does one keep from being &#8220;swallowed by the pit&#8221; of depression or despair?  How does a person continue to see the possiblity of a brighter future and believe that they can still attain it?  Once you&#8217;ve lived with things stripped down to the bare bones, it can color and change how you see the world and can sometimes squeeze out any vision of a different life.  How do we prevent that from happening to our friends and loved one or to ourselves?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashby</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/03/22/when-pride-gets-in-the-way-of-success/#comment-942619</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really understand this - had to go to Consumer Credit Counseling for help with credit card debt.  Married over 15 years with kids at the time, husband didn&#039;t understand how &quot;I got myself in such a mess.&quot;  Cards were used to support our lifestyle, trips, private school for kids, etc.  Then one child had a major illness, treatable but not curable (Chron&#039;s disease), I took money from retirement to pay medical bills not covered by insurance.  Husband and I have separate finances and the medical had always been &quot;mine&quot; in the bill allocation.  It&#039;s taken five years of pinching and two jobs but now everything is paid off and I have no debt.  He does - all credit cards in his name have huge balances.  Yes it hurt my pride, but only for a short time, the relief of being out of this financial mess (myself) is amazing.  I would do it again, but sooner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really understand this &#8211; had to go to Consumer Credit Counseling for help with credit card debt.  Married over 15 years with kids at the time, husband didn&#8217;t understand how &#8220;I got myself in such a mess.&#8221;  Cards were used to support our lifestyle, trips, private school for kids, etc.  Then one child had a major illness, treatable but not curable (Chron&#8217;s disease), I took money from retirement to pay medical bills not covered by insurance.  Husband and I have separate finances and the medical had always been &#8220;mine&#8221; in the bill allocation.  It&#8217;s taken five years of pinching and two jobs but now everything is paid off and I have no debt.  He does &#8211; all credit cards in his name have huge balances.  Yes it hurt my pride, but only for a short time, the relief of being out of this financial mess (myself) is amazing.  I would do it again, but sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: luvleftovers</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/03/22/when-pride-gets-in-the-way-of-success/#comment-942617</link>
		<dc:creator>luvleftovers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I haven&#039;t posted in ages.

I understand how that person feels.  I just applied for food stamps.  Never thought I&#039;d have to do that.  But I can&#039;t find full time work and will probably be filing for bankruptcy soon as well.  I&#039;ve paid for these social services all my life through my taxes, so I just look at it as getting back some of what I&#039;ve put in.  I don&#039;t feel funny about it, which actually surprises me.  I guess once I realized that I needed to do it, it became the natural thing to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I haven&#8217;t posted in ages.</p>
<p>I understand how that person feels.  I just applied for food stamps.  Never thought I&#8217;d have to do that.  But I can&#8217;t find full time work and will probably be filing for bankruptcy soon as well.  I&#8217;ve paid for these social services all my life through my taxes, so I just look at it as getting back some of what I&#8217;ve put in.  I don&#8217;t feel funny about it, which actually surprises me.  I guess once I realized that I needed to do it, it became the natural thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#33 About those student loans. (The daughter (#14) that took a while to find the job.) The constant conversation that we had was &quot;Thank the Lord that you don&#039;t have student loans!&quot; She lived off campus in yucky neighborhoods ($250 a month), worked 70 hours during the summer, loaded up on credits, and didn&#039;t have a car on campus. Many of her peers that lived in apartments that cost $900 a month would joke that the student loan check had come in and go out and buy things. They are now unemployed and facing $600 monthly loan payments. Our daily choices make our lives...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33 About those student loans. (The daughter (#14) that took a while to find the job.) The constant conversation that we had was &#8220;Thank the Lord that you don&#8217;t have student loans!&#8221; She lived off campus in yucky neighborhoods ($250 a month), worked 70 hours during the summer, loaded up on credits, and didn&#8217;t have a car on campus. Many of her peers that lived in apartments that cost $900 a month would joke that the student loan check had come in and go out and buy things. They are now unemployed and facing $600 monthly loan payments. Our daily choices make our lives&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/03/22/when-pride-gets-in-the-way-of-success/#comment-942609</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The second example - a graduate who can&#039;t find work in their area of study - is exactly why students should NOT use student loans to pay for their education. Knowing that those student loan payments are going to kick in not long after graduation often forces folks to accept a job in a less than &#039;perfect&#039; position simply to make ends meet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second example &#8211; a graduate who can&#8217;t find work in their area of study &#8211; is exactly why students should NOT use student loans to pay for their education. Knowing that those student loan payments are going to kick in not long after graduation often forces folks to accept a job in a less than &#8216;perfect&#8217; position simply to make ends meet.</p>
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		<title>By: VickiB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VickiB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to laugh when I hear all the whining about being &quot;underemployed&quot;.  I graduated from college in 1989 - a terrible job market.  I had no choice but to do things like work for temp agencies, christmas help at the mall, assembling bouquest for a flower wholesaler, etc.  I am proud of every job I did well.  The christmas help job led to full time, benefited employment of 13 years with that retailer as an administrative assistant, which, after the company folded, led to more corporate employment beyond administrative work.  But KNOWING I can do any of these jobs - clerk, factory worker, secretary - what a comfort !!!  I learned great customer service skills, and yes, I learned how to be poor and survive !  When my old company folded, I was the FIRST in my group to find new employment. Any job you do well is one to be proud of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to laugh when I hear all the whining about being &#8220;underemployed&#8221;.  I graduated from college in 1989 &#8211; a terrible job market.  I had no choice but to do things like work for temp agencies, christmas help at the mall, assembling bouquest for a flower wholesaler, etc.  I am proud of every job I did well.  The christmas help job led to full time, benefited employment of 13 years with that retailer as an administrative assistant, which, after the company folded, led to more corporate employment beyond administrative work.  But KNOWING I can do any of these jobs &#8211; clerk, factory worker, secretary &#8211; what a comfort !!!  I learned great customer service skills, and yes, I learned how to be poor and survive !  When my old company folded, I was the FIRST in my group to find new employment. Any job you do well is one to be proud of.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow... Troll much deRuiter? Do you actually know anyone who works in the civil service, or are you just listening to talk radio? As a government worker, I get 2 weeks PTO per year, and that&#039;s it, anything beyond that is unpaid. My healthcare? That comes from my own paycheck. No pension here, I get to contribute to TSP. And let&#039;s not even talk about getting furloughed for a few weeks at a time. Basically  being out of work for 2 weeks, but unable to either apply for unemployment or get another job, or apply for other benefits. And then, on top of all that, I get to worry about my job being cut because someone thought it was a good idea to cut taxes when most governments are broke. Oh, and the mountain of work I bring home every night so that when positions DO get cut, I can show that I&#039;m going above and beyond. 

Man, those government workers! Slackers all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; Troll much deRuiter? Do you actually know anyone who works in the civil service, or are you just listening to talk radio? As a government worker, I get 2 weeks PTO per year, and that&#8217;s it, anything beyond that is unpaid. My healthcare? That comes from my own paycheck. No pension here, I get to contribute to TSP. And let&#8217;s not even talk about getting furloughed for a few weeks at a time. Basically  being out of work for 2 weeks, but unable to either apply for unemployment or get another job, or apply for other benefits. And then, on top of all that, I get to worry about my job being cut because someone thought it was a good idea to cut taxes when most governments are broke. Oh, and the mountain of work I bring home every night so that when positions DO get cut, I can show that I&#8217;m going above and beyond. </p>
<p>Man, those government workers! Slackers all!</p>
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		<title>By: deRuiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>deRuiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve worked at this job for twenty five years, so I’ll accept the benefit cuts.”  Maybe it&#039;s a civil servant who has gold plated health care, five weeks (or the whole summer plus more) vacation, ten holidays, sick days, personal days, job security, a pension and is being supported by workers in the private sector who earn less, have less vacation, get fewer holidays, pay their own health care and don&#039;t get a lush pension?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve worked at this job for twenty five years, so I’ll accept the benefit cuts.”  Maybe it&#8217;s a civil servant who has gold plated health care, five weeks (or the whole summer plus more) vacation, ten holidays, sick days, personal days, job security, a pension and is being supported by workers in the private sector who earn less, have less vacation, get fewer holidays, pay their own health care and don&#8217;t get a lush pension?</p>
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		<title>By: 20 and Engaged</title>
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		<dc:creator>20 and Engaged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 04:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pride got in the way of a lot for me, even after I lost my job. But I knew I had to do what I had to do. I filed for unemployment so I could at least make ends meet. I put myself in socially uncomfortable situations in order to network with other people. I took on another unpaid internship for the chance at full time employment after I said I wouldn&#039;t do anymore. I understand where these people are coming from and I&#039;m not going to scold them since I was once where they are. They&#039;ll meet their tipping point where pride no longer matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pride got in the way of a lot for me, even after I lost my job. But I knew I had to do what I had to do. I filed for unemployment so I could at least make ends meet. I put myself in socially uncomfortable situations in order to network with other people. I took on another unpaid internship for the chance at full time employment after I said I wouldn&#8217;t do anymore. I understand where these people are coming from and I&#8217;m not going to scold them since I was once where they are. They&#8217;ll meet their tipping point where pride no longer matters.</p>
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		<title>By: kristinelevy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristinelevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 02:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caveat- if you use food stamps, or get government help with living expenses, it will be held against you should you ever find yourself in a custody battle. The state has a vested interest in choosing a parent who would not ever rely on help from the gov., this unless the other parent is proven unfit- very hard to do.

Just something single parents should know. I happen to think that getting the help you need to take of your children in hard times is the right thing to do, and should not be penalized or judged negatively in any way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caveat- if you use food stamps, or get government help with living expenses, it will be held against you should you ever find yourself in a custody battle. The state has a vested interest in choosing a parent who would not ever rely on help from the gov., this unless the other parent is proven unfit- very hard to do.</p>
<p>Just something single parents should know. I happen to think that getting the help you need to take of your children in hard times is the right thing to do, and should not be penalized or judged negatively in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/03/22/when-pride-gets-in-the-way-of-success/#comment-942574</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right after I graduated college, I was looking forward to my &quot;last summer.&quot;  Gen Con was coming up in August, and I was flat broke.  So, knowing that I would be taking a vacation, I went down to a local temp agency and put in my application.  I started working at a factory folding boxes.  In the middle of summer.  With no air conditioning.  Here I was, a college graduate (from a fairly elite college) working alongside people who didn&#039;t have a high school diploma.  

When the supervisor took me aside one day I thought I was in trouble for using the forklift to get down more supplies (my coworkers wouldn&#039;t go and find someone with the requisite license).  Nope, she offered me a full time job with the company due to my diligence and work ethic.  Sadly, I had to decline, as I was already looking forward to a new job in my field in about six weeks.  

When I first moved to Colorado, I worked for a landscaper shoveling manure under newly planted trees.  And then I went to work repackaging digital thingamabobs.  Unskilled work being performed by a degreed professional.  And I&#039;ll do it again if I have to.

My old mechanic had a rule of never hiring someone who wasn&#039;t already working.  Didn&#039;t matter what the job was, it mattered that you didn&#039;t sit on your duff and wait for something to fall into your lap.  That advice has paid off handsomely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right after I graduated college, I was looking forward to my &#8220;last summer.&#8221;  Gen Con was coming up in August, and I was flat broke.  So, knowing that I would be taking a vacation, I went down to a local temp agency and put in my application.  I started working at a factory folding boxes.  In the middle of summer.  With no air conditioning.  Here I was, a college graduate (from a fairly elite college) working alongside people who didn&#8217;t have a high school diploma.  </p>
<p>When the supervisor took me aside one day I thought I was in trouble for using the forklift to get down more supplies (my coworkers wouldn&#8217;t go and find someone with the requisite license).  Nope, she offered me a full time job with the company due to my diligence and work ethic.  Sadly, I had to decline, as I was already looking forward to a new job in my field in about six weeks.  </p>
<p>When I first moved to Colorado, I worked for a landscaper shoveling manure under newly planted trees.  And then I went to work repackaging digital thingamabobs.  Unskilled work being performed by a degreed professional.  And I&#8217;ll do it again if I have to.</p>
<p>My old mechanic had a rule of never hiring someone who wasn&#8217;t already working.  Didn&#8217;t matter what the job was, it mattered that you didn&#8217;t sit on your duff and wait for something to fall into your lap.  That advice has paid off handsomely.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt C</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/03/22/when-pride-gets-in-the-way-of-success/#comment-942573</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;ve cut every last inch from every where on your budget - cell phones, cars, gas, food, tv, internet, thermostat etc... and still can&#039;t make ends meet it is time to get outside help. My wife and I had to accept help while I was transitioning between careers because she became pregnant at the same time. We used WIC. that extra $75 each month in food helped to float us through the lean times for those 6 months. It was difficult to swallom my pride, especially when breaking out the WIC coupons in the line and seeing a sea of people flee from the line behind us. However, the career change has opened up many new opportunities that were not available before. It definately was worth the harsh looks, days of feeling less than a man, etc...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve cut every last inch from every where on your budget &#8211; cell phones, cars, gas, food, tv, internet, thermostat etc&#8230; and still can&#8217;t make ends meet it is time to get outside help. My wife and I had to accept help while I was transitioning between careers because she became pregnant at the same time. We used WIC. that extra $75 each month in food helped to float us through the lean times for those 6 months. It was difficult to swallom my pride, especially when breaking out the WIC coupons in the line and seeing a sea of people flee from the line behind us. However, the career change has opened up many new opportunities that were not available before. It definately was worth the harsh looks, days of feeling less than a man, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@#24 Steve:

Those are truly beautiful sentiments. We are definitely thankful for our &#039;luck&#039; these days :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#24 Steve:</p>
<p>Those are truly beautiful sentiments. We are definitely thankful for our &#8216;luck&#8217; these days :)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in W MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in W MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mega Corporations in a relentless search for megabucks have been increasing their efficiency, offshoring jobs, and generally requiring fewer positions, all in search of more money on their bottom line. 

How does being made obsolete by a vastly more powerful entity or entities make you a &quot;drain&quot; on anything? Perhaps THEY could be viewed  as a drain on you, looked at from another angle.

Stop blaming yourself for a situation that is likely larger than you (&quot;I don&#039;t want to feel like a drain), and start looking for a solution that is bigger than you or at least includes people outside of yourself. 

If you want to contribute positively while getting assistance from a number of sources, seek out opportunies to help those same organizations with your skills or other opportunities to contribute your labor and skills to. If that&#039;s really important to you. Not all contributions have to be paid work. In fact, I never really got the idea that people who have jobs are &quot;contributing&quot; to anything in particular. It always felt to me that people worked for the money and were able to keep their jobs solely based upon whether their companies were successful and people wanted to buy their products (or COULD buy their products.). I call people who are employed for pay FORTUNATE note:this includes ME. I consider myself fortunate to have a paying position with health care. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m special or that I&#039;m contributing selflessly because of that. I work. I get paid. I get benefits. I am lucky that way. It doesn&#039;t make me better than 5 or 10 guys I know who are unemployed because their industry (housing construction) collapsed 2 years ago and people like me are left holding the existing jobs, excluding them from the chance to work).

In fact, I do contribute to something with my work, but I&#039;m not primarily a CONTRIBUTOR just because I work and take home a paycheck.  And I don&#039;t call people who ask for help &quot;drains.&quot; I know lots of people who contribute to my own community who are on public assistance and who get food from a food pantry. Some of them contribute by keeping their families together and doing an excellent job providing guidance to their children, or by volunteering at different organizations in my town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mega Corporations in a relentless search for megabucks have been increasing their efficiency, offshoring jobs, and generally requiring fewer positions, all in search of more money on their bottom line. </p>
<p>How does being made obsolete by a vastly more powerful entity or entities make you a &#8220;drain&#8221; on anything? Perhaps THEY could be viewed  as a drain on you, looked at from another angle.</p>
<p>Stop blaming yourself for a situation that is likely larger than you (&#8220;I don&#8217;t want to feel like a drain), and start looking for a solution that is bigger than you or at least includes people outside of yourself. </p>
<p>If you want to contribute positively while getting assistance from a number of sources, seek out opportunies to help those same organizations with your skills or other opportunities to contribute your labor and skills to. If that&#8217;s really important to you. Not all contributions have to be paid work. In fact, I never really got the idea that people who have jobs are &#8220;contributing&#8221; to anything in particular. It always felt to me that people worked for the money and were able to keep their jobs solely based upon whether their companies were successful and people wanted to buy their products (or COULD buy their products.). I call people who are employed for pay FORTUNATE note:this includes ME. I consider myself fortunate to have a paying position with health care. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m special or that I&#8217;m contributing selflessly because of that. I work. I get paid. I get benefits. I am lucky that way. It doesn&#8217;t make me better than 5 or 10 guys I know who are unemployed because their industry (housing construction) collapsed 2 years ago and people like me are left holding the existing jobs, excluding them from the chance to work).</p>
<p>In fact, I do contribute to something with my work, but I&#8217;m not primarily a CONTRIBUTOR just because I work and take home a paycheck.  And I don&#8217;t call people who ask for help &#8220;drains.&#8221; I know lots of people who contribute to my own community who are on public assistance and who get food from a food pantry. Some of them contribute by keeping their families together and doing an excellent job providing guidance to their children, or by volunteering at different organizations in my town.</p>
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