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		<title>By: Tara C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The long term for me is retirement... which is 20 years out.  I am busy saving so that my goal is achievable.  I have no idea what I will want to be doing at that point, but I trust that along the way I will figure it out.  Near term (the next 5 years) I have career plans that I plan to execute to help me find a passion that will carry me through to retirement and hopefully beyond.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The long term for me is retirement&#8230; which is 20 years out.  I am busy saving so that my goal is achievable.  I have no idea what I will want to be doing at that point, but I trust that along the way I will figure it out.  Near term (the next 5 years) I have career plans that I plan to execute to help me find a passion that will carry me through to retirement and hopefully beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: valleycat1</title>
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		<dc:creator>valleycat1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE nursing home:  These numbers are from the prevous census, but the newer version I&#039;ve seen (but can&#039;t put my mouse on right now) are basically the same:

According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, slightly over 5 percent of the 65+ population occupy nursing homes, congregate care, assisted living, and board-and-care homes, and about 4.2 percent are in nursing homes at any given time. The rate of nursing home use increases with age from 1.4 percent of the young-old to 24.5 percent of the oldest-old. Almost 50 percent of those 95 and older live in nursing homes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE nursing home:  These numbers are from the prevous census, but the newer version I&#8217;ve seen (but can&#8217;t put my mouse on right now) are basically the same:</p>
<p>According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, slightly over 5 percent of the 65+ population occupy nursing homes, congregate care, assisted living, and board-and-care homes, and about 4.2 percent are in nursing homes at any given time. The rate of nursing home use increases with age from 1.4 percent of the young-old to 24.5 percent of the oldest-old. Almost 50 percent of those 95 and older live in nursing homes.</p>
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		<title>By: SLCCOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLCCOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am touched by the faith in &quot;staying active&quot; and staying slim to keep you out of a nursing home in the end. This isn&#039;t a bad idea, but assuming that you have any real control is nothing more than magical thinking. Smart people will plan ahead. And keep in mind, when you look at nursing home life from the eyes of a young, healthy person, it isn&#039;t necessarily the way someone who needs 24-hour care looks at it. And expecting your kids to do the care to keep you at home is simply selfish. I&#039;ve seen many a person nearly destroyed by the burdens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am touched by the faith in &#8220;staying active&#8221; and staying slim to keep you out of a nursing home in the end. This isn&#8217;t a bad idea, but assuming that you have any real control is nothing more than magical thinking. Smart people will plan ahead. And keep in mind, when you look at nursing home life from the eyes of a young, healthy person, it isn&#8217;t necessarily the way someone who needs 24-hour care looks at it. And expecting your kids to do the care to keep you at home is simply selfish. I&#8217;ve seen many a person nearly destroyed by the burdens.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hit &quot;return&quot; too quickly.  No, I&#039;m certainly not &quot;expecting!&quot; 

To complete the sentence--I&#039;m not expecting life to turn out exactly as I would desire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hit &#8220;return&#8221; too quickly.  No, I&#8217;m certainly not &#8220;expecting!&#8221; </p>
<p>To complete the sentence&#8211;I&#8217;m not expecting life to turn out exactly as I would desire.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At 50, I am living a life completely different from the one I envisioned at 20 or 25.  In some ways it&#039;s worse, in some ways so much better than I would have thought.

So, I&#039;m reluctant to plan in too much detail for my life at 80 or 85--too many things can happen, on both individual and global levels, to make that a useful exercise.  I&#039;m suspicious of long term goals!

I&#039;ll do what I can to make the future easier, but I&#039;m not expecting]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 50, I am living a life completely different from the one I envisioned at 20 or 25.  In some ways it&#8217;s worse, in some ways so much better than I would have thought.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m reluctant to plan in too much detail for my life at 80 or 85&#8211;too many things can happen, on both individual and global levels, to make that a useful exercise.  I&#8217;m suspicious of long term goals!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll do what I can to make the future easier, but I&#8217;m not expecting</p>
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		<title>By: bogart</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Alice thanks for your comment.  I&#039;ll admit my early comment above was a bit cynical; I don&#039;t &quot;expect&quot; to spend my last years in a nursing home but I do think it is a realistic possibility that I will need to spend time in a nursing home and something I should plan for.  If you look at the statistics, lots and lots of elderly people (and some not so elderly) do.

My dad, who has dementia and has never regained the ability to walk after breaking a hip, is in a nursing home.  Really (to be fair, due in part to his own lack of planning) there is no alternative.  He needs around-the-clock care available in a setting where there is always someone available who is strong enough safely to lift a 200# man from his wheelchair to a bed, or to a toilet, or to change his diaper.  I&#039;ll never be a 200# man (and hope never to hit 200# myself, which would be quite overweight for me), but securing safe living arrangements for my dad have helped me understand just how difficult (and expensive) this can be.  

If it reassures you, though, I&#039;ll add that DH and I have remodeled 50% of our single-level home and have plans to remodel eventually) the other half.  I have insisted that we do so with an eye to accessibility issues, and have considered things like the availability of accessible public transportation (we haz it).  So I am planning ahead to try to reduce the probability of this need, as well as to be prepared for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alice thanks for your comment.  I&#8217;ll admit my early comment above was a bit cynical; I don&#8217;t &#8220;expect&#8221; to spend my last years in a nursing home but I do think it is a realistic possibility that I will need to spend time in a nursing home and something I should plan for.  If you look at the statistics, lots and lots of elderly people (and some not so elderly) do.</p>
<p>My dad, who has dementia and has never regained the ability to walk after breaking a hip, is in a nursing home.  Really (to be fair, due in part to his own lack of planning) there is no alternative.  He needs around-the-clock care available in a setting where there is always someone available who is strong enough safely to lift a 200# man from his wheelchair to a bed, or to a toilet, or to change his diaper.  I&#8217;ll never be a 200# man (and hope never to hit 200# myself, which would be quite overweight for me), but securing safe living arrangements for my dad have helped me understand just how difficult (and expensive) this can be.  </p>
<p>If it reassures you, though, I&#8217;ll add that DH and I have remodeled 50% of our single-level home and have plans to remodel eventually) the other half.  I have insisted that we do so with an eye to accessibility issues, and have considered things like the availability of accessible public transportation (we haz it).  So I am planning ahead to try to reduce the probability of this need, as well as to be prepared for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent, I believe you will be very successful in saving for retirement. You may be surprised to find out that you have no hobbies or other activities when you reach your selected retirement age if you don&#039;t find some now. 

It seems we always put that type thing on hold until we get there. One can only play games and watch TV for a time and then we must get out and be more physical each day. I&#039;d like to suggest that you start thinking about some constructive things you would like to do when you reach retirement. Maybe it will be to build bird houses or carve usefull woden items or grow the greatest garden in your area. Just have a few things in mind so that when you do retire you have a sense of direction for the next steps.

I am enjoying my semi retirement at age 70. I don&#039;t think I will ever fully retire and since I like to stay active. I still run my business from my home office and I enjoy the work. I just pared down my client list so that I&#039;m not working just for the money.

Bogart at #3 - Why think you will spend your last days in a nursing home? I plan to stay in my present home for many more years and I don&#039;t even think about nursing homes as an alternative. You shouldn&#039;t either - just stay active and you might find that you don&#039;t need that type of care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I believe you will be very successful in saving for retirement. You may be surprised to find out that you have no hobbies or other activities when you reach your selected retirement age if you don&#8217;t find some now. </p>
<p>It seems we always put that type thing on hold until we get there. One can only play games and watch TV for a time and then we must get out and be more physical each day. I&#8217;d like to suggest that you start thinking about some constructive things you would like to do when you reach retirement. Maybe it will be to build bird houses or carve usefull woden items or grow the greatest garden in your area. Just have a few things in mind so that when you do retire you have a sense of direction for the next steps.</p>
<p>I am enjoying my semi retirement at age 70. I don&#8217;t think I will ever fully retire and since I like to stay active. I still run my business from my home office and I enjoy the work. I just pared down my client list so that I&#8217;m not working just for the money.</p>
<p>Bogart at #3 &#8211; Why think you will spend your last days in a nursing home? I plan to stay in my present home for many more years and I don&#8217;t even think about nursing homes as an alternative. You shouldn&#8217;t either &#8211; just stay active and you might find that you don&#8217;t need that type of care.</p>
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		<title>By: Telephus44</title>
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		<dc:creator>Telephus44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 14:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess what I want to focus on my life then is the &quot;mid-term.&quot;  I am saving for retirement, but making plans 5-10 years out is more meaningful for me.  Who know what I&#039;ll want to do when I&#039;m 80?  Maybe my health will limit my activities.  Maybe I&#039;ll have a new hobby or interest that I don&#039;t have now.  

But 5-10 years out - I have a better handle on what I want to be doing.  I have a better idea of the relationship I want to have with my son when he&#039;s 9, rather than trying to look in my crystal ball and figure out where he&#039;ll be when he&#039;s 30.  I know what I want my career to look like 5-10 years out.

I mean, planning for the long term future is good - and necessary - but it isn&#039;t always the best frame of mind to approach things.  I wouldn&#039;t necessarily ask a 5 year old where he&#039;s going to college, but I would ask him if he wants to be on the competitive little league when he&#039;s 10.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess what I want to focus on my life then is the &#8220;mid-term.&#8221;  I am saving for retirement, but making plans 5-10 years out is more meaningful for me.  Who know what I&#8217;ll want to do when I&#8217;m 80?  Maybe my health will limit my activities.  Maybe I&#8217;ll have a new hobby or interest that I don&#8217;t have now.  </p>
<p>But 5-10 years out &#8211; I have a better handle on what I want to be doing.  I have a better idea of the relationship I want to have with my son when he&#8217;s 9, rather than trying to look in my crystal ball and figure out where he&#8217;ll be when he&#8217;s 30.  I know what I want my career to look like 5-10 years out.</p>
<p>I mean, planning for the long term future is good &#8211; and necessary &#8211; but it isn&#8217;t always the best frame of mind to approach things.  I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily ask a 5 year old where he&#8217;s going to college, but I would ask him if he wants to be on the competitive little league when he&#8217;s 10.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have some long term goals that stretch out beyond my death, whenever that time comes.  Several are spelled out via estate planning and other projects will mature for the enjoyment of future generations.  Milestones are not endpoints.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some long term goals that stretch out beyond my death, whenever that time comes.  Several are spelled out via estate planning and other projects will mature for the enjoyment of future generations.  Milestones are not endpoints.</p>
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		<title>By: getagrip</title>
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		<dc:creator>getagrip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My long term is financial independance.  That really means kids out of college, out of my house, having their own lives, and having set them up for potential success (one goal I have is to take the money I&#039;ve been annually saving for each of their college funds and start a Roth for each of them for a few years post college as their guaranteed, and potentially only, inheritance).  Basically I want them off my dime because they tend to be my biggest unknown variables.  That said, we&#039;ll see what the future holds.  What&#039;s that old saying:

Expect the best, plan for the worst, life&#039;s a play and we&#039;re unrehearsed. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My long term is financial independance.  That really means kids out of college, out of my house, having their own lives, and having set them up for potential success (one goal I have is to take the money I&#8217;ve been annually saving for each of their college funds and start a Roth for each of them for a few years post college as their guaranteed, and potentially only, inheritance).  Basically I want them off my dime because they tend to be my biggest unknown variables.  That said, we&#8217;ll see what the future holds.  What&#8217;s that old saying:</p>
<p>Expect the best, plan for the worst, life&#8217;s a play and we&#8217;re unrehearsed. :)</p>
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		<title>By: bogart</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 03:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post.

I&#039;ll quaintly admit that (a) I want to retire at some point in my life and (b) -- this is the quaint part -- I am convinced that it is not logically possible to (need to) work in retirement.  That is, all the pop media pieces about how people are now &quot;working in retirement&quot; because those &quot;retirees&quot; need the money are, in my book, completely missing the point and/or misleading us.  Not to say that I&#039;m opposed to down-scaling, working in a paid profession for reasons other than the income, etc., but if I&#039;m working because I need the income ... I&#039;m not retired.

So, at some point I need to reach a stage where not only do I have enough passive income to live on in my then-current condition, but also to last long enough and be able to cover my time in the nursing home.  That&#039;s my long-term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll quaintly admit that (a) I want to retire at some point in my life and (b) &#8212; this is the quaint part &#8212; I am convinced that it is not logically possible to (need to) work in retirement.  That is, all the pop media pieces about how people are now &#8220;working in retirement&#8221; because those &#8220;retirees&#8221; need the money are, in my book, completely missing the point and/or misleading us.  Not to say that I&#8217;m opposed to down-scaling, working in a paid profession for reasons other than the income, etc., but if I&#8217;m working because I need the income &#8230; I&#8217;m not retired.</p>
<p>So, at some point I need to reach a stage where not only do I have enough passive income to live on in my then-current condition, but also to last long enough and be able to cover my time in the nursing home.  That&#8217;s my long-term.</p>
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		<title>By: *pol</title>
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		<dc:creator>*pol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 02:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My long term keeps getting shorter at an alarming clip. How did I get to be almost 40 so FAST?! I have been putting money away for &quot;long term&quot; for about 16 years, but life kept interfering with the goals... marriage, house, 2 kids, another house, market tanking (sweeping what little progress we thought we had made away)! I keep trying not to beat myself up too badly. No consumer debt, a small mortgage and at least SOMETHING for the long term -- not hopeless, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My long term keeps getting shorter at an alarming clip. How did I get to be almost 40 so FAST?! I have been putting money away for &#8220;long term&#8221; for about 16 years, but life kept interfering with the goals&#8230; marriage, house, 2 kids, another house, market tanking (sweeping what little progress we thought we had made away)! I keep trying not to beat myself up too badly. No consumer debt, a small mortgage and at least SOMETHING for the long term &#8212; not hopeless, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 21:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My long-term view has also been retirement.  But for the past decade, I&#039;ve been focusing more on the beginning of it (now less than four years away).  In the beginning I will still be youngish, healthy (probably), and having all my faculties (probably).  I haven&#039;t really thought about what I&#039;ll be doing when I&#039;m 80 or 90, maybe not so mobile, probably aching with arthritis.

I&#039;ve tried to take care of my energy-requiring goals early on (like vacations involving hiking).  But how long will my corrected vision be good enough for things?  My hearing?  My fine motor coordination?  My gross motor coordination?

I do make sure that some things I do focus on balance (yoga, ballroom dance, putting on socks while standing up)--you hear about old people falling and breaking a hip.

I do remember deciding to try never to become too weak to get out of a chair, but it turns out that some people who look like they are too weak to easily get out of a chair are actually in too much pain to easily get out of a chair.  So, there&#039;s no telling.

Still, I&#039;m saving video games for later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My long-term view has also been retirement.  But for the past decade, I&#8217;ve been focusing more on the beginning of it (now less than four years away).  In the beginning I will still be youngish, healthy (probably), and having all my faculties (probably).  I haven&#8217;t really thought about what I&#8217;ll be doing when I&#8217;m 80 or 90, maybe not so mobile, probably aching with arthritis.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried to take care of my energy-requiring goals early on (like vacations involving hiking).  But how long will my corrected vision be good enough for things?  My hearing?  My fine motor coordination?  My gross motor coordination?</p>
<p>I do make sure that some things I do focus on balance (yoga, ballroom dance, putting on socks while standing up)&#8211;you hear about old people falling and breaking a hip.</p>
<p>I do remember deciding to try never to become too weak to get out of a chair, but it turns out that some people who look like they are too weak to easily get out of a chair are actually in too much pain to easily get out of a chair.  So, there&#8217;s no telling.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m saving video games for later.</p>
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