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	<title>Comments on: The Simple Dollar Weekly Roundup: Fishing Edition</title>
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		<title>By: kristine</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/06/22/the-simple-dollar-weekly-roundup-fishing-edition/#comment-950954</link>
		<dc:creator>kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 05:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am definitely in the camp of OK to catch/ hunt it if you eat it. Traumatizing a living creature of any kind just for fun seems needlessly creating pain for entertainment. As instruction for a child to later fish for food, however, it is a gray area.

I was always sad when I caught a fish too small, as I felt bad for hurting it. I did not feel bad for those I would eat, however, because it felt like the natural order of things. I would end the life quickly to be more humane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely in the camp of OK to catch/ hunt it if you eat it. Traumatizing a living creature of any kind just for fun seems needlessly creating pain for entertainment. As instruction for a child to later fish for food, however, it is a gray area.</p>
<p>I was always sad when I caught a fish too small, as I felt bad for hurting it. I did not feel bad for those I would eat, however, because it felt like the natural order of things. I would end the life quickly to be more humane.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To extrapolate: perhaps when your son is 70 he will catch 71 fish and throw them back in the water. For myself, I would see no more in this than a perverse desire to torment fish. Your mileage, as a fully engaged nonagenarian, may of course vary. But well it was said by the bard:

The hunter crouches in his blind
&#039;Neath camouflage of every kind,
And conjures up a quacking noise
To lend allure to his decoys.
This grown-up man, with pluck and luck,
Is hoping to outwit a duck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To extrapolate: perhaps when your son is 70 he will catch 71 fish and throw them back in the water. For myself, I would see no more in this than a perverse desire to torment fish. Your mileage, as a fully engaged nonagenarian, may of course vary. But well it was said by the bard:</p>
<p>The hunter crouches in his blind<br />
&#8216;Neath camouflage of every kind,<br />
And conjures up a quacking noise<br />
To lend allure to his decoys.<br />
This grown-up man, with pluck and luck,<br />
Is hoping to outwit a duck.</p>
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		<title>By: karishma</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/06/22/the-simple-dollar-weekly-roundup-fishing-edition/#comment-950947</link>
		<dc:creator>karishma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Trent and his son were deliberately catching small fish and releasing them for sport - they just happened to only catch small ones, and therefore couldn&#039;t keep and eat them. If they&#039;d caught one large enough, they would have eaten it. That was my initial understanding of what he wrote, and rereading doesn&#039;t lead me to interpret it the way some of you are doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Trent and his son were deliberately catching small fish and releasing them for sport &#8211; they just happened to only catch small ones, and therefore couldn&#8217;t keep and eat them. If they&#8217;d caught one large enough, they would have eaten it. That was my initial understanding of what he wrote, and rereading doesn&#8217;t lead me to interpret it the way some of you are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;Think about it, have you ever seen a fish with a scar?

Yes, I have.  Salmon, steelhead, &amp; whitefish with scars on their backs from narrowly missing becoming a dinner for a hawk.

I&#039;ll post the underwater video to prove it, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Think about it, have you ever seen a fish with a scar?</p>
<p>Yes, I have.  Salmon, steelhead, &amp; whitefish with scars on their backs from narrowly missing becoming a dinner for a hawk.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post the underwater video to prove it, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If anything, it just means that we shouldn’t torment broccoli for fun either.&quot;

Dang, there goes my cheap weekend entertainment! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If anything, it just means that we shouldn’t torment broccoli for fun either.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dang, there goes my cheap weekend entertainment! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just jumping in to say that I love reading Johanna&#039;s comments. I agree with Steven (hundredgoals) that it makes for better discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just jumping in to say that I love reading Johanna&#8217;s comments. I agree with Steven (hundredgoals) that it makes for better discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Riki</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/06/22/the-simple-dollar-weekly-roundup-fishing-edition/#comment-950932</link>
		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there&#039;s a difference between releasing fish that don&#039;t meet minimum size requirements (while intending to catch fish for food) and fishing recreationally with no intention of eating the fish you do catch.

Tormenting living creatures purely for entertainment isn&#039;t very humane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a difference between releasing fish that don&#8217;t meet minimum size requirements (while intending to catch fish for food) and fishing recreationally with no intention of eating the fish you do catch.</p>
<p>Tormenting living creatures purely for entertainment isn&#8217;t very humane.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as far as the catch and release goes in most states fish have to be a certain size in order to legally keep them, if they are to small and you keep them and are caught by the DNR you will be fined]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as far as the catch and release goes in most states fish have to be a certain size in order to legally keep them, if they are to small and you keep them and are caught by the DNR you will be fined</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where are people getting that all released fish die?  The vast majority go on to live just fine, even the small ones, science and studies have proven this.  There are ways to handle them to minimize the impact, which should be taught to everyone who fishes. 

You really have to mishandle a fish to cause it to die.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are people getting that all released fish die?  The vast majority go on to live just fine, even the small ones, science and studies have proven this.  There are ways to handle them to minimize the impact, which should be taught to everyone who fishes. </p>
<p>You really have to mishandle a fish to cause it to die.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Either way, it still making me laugh :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way, it still making me laugh :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick, I&#039;ve caught bunches of fish that had been caught before. The Missouri dnr has a study that shows most trout in lake tanneycomo are caught and released several tines before reaching the legal size to keep. Catch and release is not a horrible thing. Im sure it sucks a bit for the fish but they recover. 

Now what&#039;s really fun is scuba spearfishing. No by catch, only the targeted species is speared. Fresh snapper, yum!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, I&#8217;ve caught bunches of fish that had been caught before. The Missouri dnr has a study that shows most trout in lake tanneycomo are caught and released several tines before reaching the legal size to keep. Catch and release is not a horrible thing. Im sure it sucks a bit for the fish but they recover. </p>
<p>Now what&#8217;s really fun is scuba spearfishing. No by catch, only the targeted species is speared. Fresh snapper, yum!!</p>
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		<title>By: lynda grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>lynda grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fished today. it was soooo good. done it before, did it today and going to do it again. but tomorrow will be time for a hunt. no release there either. may have to put more than one in them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fished today. it was soooo good. done it before, did it today and going to do it again. but tomorrow will be time for a hunt. no release there either. may have to put more than one in them.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/06/22/the-simple-dollar-weekly-roundup-fishing-edition/#comment-950918</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Imagine my tongue planted in my cheek for that line, Vanessa.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Imagine my tongue planted in my cheek for that line, Vanessa.)</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/06/22/the-simple-dollar-weekly-roundup-fishing-edition/#comment-950917</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don’t know who Ari Gold is or what qualifications make him an authority on this matter,...&quot;

I *love* Entourage, but this made me laugh. Not to mock you, I just found it cute for some reason. Thanks Johanna :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t know who Ari Gold is or what qualifications make him an authority on this matter,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I *love* Entourage, but this made me laugh. Not to mock you, I just found it cute for some reason. Thanks Johanna :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. You don&#039;t always catch eatin&#039; fish, even if that&#039;s what you&#039;re trying to do.

2. If fish could scream, fishing would probably attract a different sort of sportsman.

3. I&#039;ve only gone fishing once, and all I caught was weeds. And thank goodness I did, because so many people pointed out that a caught fish will literally die every single time it is caught back because fish are unable to heal. Think about it, have you ever seen a fish with a scar? No, you haven&#039;t. If you have you&#039;re not thinking hard enough. I don&#039;t know if I could live with myself knowing that I had doomed a fish to death. Unless the fish was going to be eaten anyway. Or if it would have gone on to eat the eggs of a thousand other fish, in which case I would have been some sort of fish savior. Or if they were fish stocked by the park department that would have thrown the ecosystem out of whack if you didn&#039;t catch them. But aside from those particular cases, catch-and-release is terrible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. You don&#8217;t always catch eatin&#8217; fish, even if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re trying to do.</p>
<p>2. If fish could scream, fishing would probably attract a different sort of sportsman.</p>
<p>3. I&#8217;ve only gone fishing once, and all I caught was weeds. And thank goodness I did, because so many people pointed out that a caught fish will literally die every single time it is caught back because fish are unable to heal. Think about it, have you ever seen a fish with a scar? No, you haven&#8217;t. If you have you&#8217;re not thinking hard enough. I don&#8217;t know if I could live with myself knowing that I had doomed a fish to death. Unless the fish was going to be eaten anyway. Or if it would have gone on to eat the eggs of a thousand other fish, in which case I would have been some sort of fish savior. Or if they were fish stocked by the park department that would have thrown the ecosystem out of whack if you didn&#8217;t catch them. But aside from those particular cases, catch-and-release is terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/06/22/the-simple-dollar-weekly-roundup-fishing-edition/#comment-950915</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know who Ari Gold is or what qualifications make him an authority on this matter, but no, broccoli and other plants cannot feel pain.  (Or rather, there&#039;s no good reason to conclude that broccoli can feel pain, and several good reasons to conclude that it can&#039;t.)

For one, as far as anyone knows, the ability to feel pain requires a central nervous system.  Humans and fish have them; broccoli doesn&#039;t.

For another, pain serves a useful function in motile animals that it doesn&#039;t (and can&#039;t) serve in plants: It tells us to get away from whatever is causing the pain, and perhaps learn to avoid it in the future.  That gives us a survival advantage.  But plants can&#039;t get away from what&#039;s &quot;causing the pain,&quot; so there&#039;s no reason why plants would have evolved (or been &quot;designed&quot; with, if that&#039;s your thing) the capacity to feel pain.

Finally, even if broccoli can feel pain, what does that mean for us?  Maybe it means that there&#039;s no point in being a vegetarian (since we&#039;ve got to eat something, and eating fish is no more inhumane than eating broccoli).  But it doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s any less harmful to fish for sport (inflicting pain without even getting any food out of it).  If anything, it just means that we shouldn&#039;t torment broccoli for fun either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know who Ari Gold is or what qualifications make him an authority on this matter, but no, broccoli and other plants cannot feel pain.  (Or rather, there&#8217;s no good reason to conclude that broccoli can feel pain, and several good reasons to conclude that it can&#8217;t.)</p>
<p>For one, as far as anyone knows, the ability to feel pain requires a central nervous system.  Humans and fish have them; broccoli doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>For another, pain serves a useful function in motile animals that it doesn&#8217;t (and can&#8217;t) serve in plants: It tells us to get away from whatever is causing the pain, and perhaps learn to avoid it in the future.  That gives us a survival advantage.  But plants can&#8217;t get away from what&#8217;s &#8220;causing the pain,&#8221; so there&#8217;s no reason why plants would have evolved (or been &#8220;designed&#8221; with, if that&#8217;s your thing) the capacity to feel pain.</p>
<p>Finally, even if broccoli can feel pain, what does that mean for us?  Maybe it means that there&#8217;s no point in being a vegetarian (since we&#8217;ve got to eat something, and eating fish is no more inhumane than eating broccoli).  But it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s any less harmful to fish for sport (inflicting pain without even getting any food out of it).  If anything, it just means that we shouldn&#8217;t torment broccoli for fun either.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is plenty that is inhumane about fishing.  And Ari Gold is a fictional character.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is plenty that is inhumane about fishing.  And Ari Gold is a fictional character.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Living with Chaos - Wow, that was a different point of view. Interesting, but I could not even take the 1-hour challenge because I would end up drifting around and feeling like I blew an hour.  I will choose structure over chaos every time because it makes me happier and brings me longer-term satisfaction.

Regarding fishing (and hunting, for that matter): this is a skill that one learns by doing.  You begin when you are young and with small fish.  You eventually learn to catch large fish.  Once you have mastered the skill you can decide if you want to keep doing it, but it is a good skill to have.  In a survival situation that skill could mean the difference between life and death.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living with Chaos &#8211; Wow, that was a different point of view. Interesting, but I could not even take the 1-hour challenge because I would end up drifting around and feeling like I blew an hour.  I will choose structure over chaos every time because it makes me happier and brings me longer-term satisfaction.</p>
<p>Regarding fishing (and hunting, for that matter): this is a skill that one learns by doing.  You begin when you are young and with small fish.  You eventually learn to catch large fish.  Once you have mastered the skill you can decide if you want to keep doing it, but it is a good skill to have.  In a survival situation that skill could mean the difference between life and death.</p>
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		<title>By: Riki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fishing for food doesn&#039;t bother me . . . but fishing and throwing them back?  Well, fish can feel pain and often they are thrown back with large rips in the jaw and operculum that can result in infections, trouble feeding, or trouble breathing.

I&#039;m not a fan of catch-and-release as a recreational activity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fishing for food doesn&#8217;t bother me . . . but fishing and throwing them back?  Well, fish can feel pain and often they are thrown back with large rips in the jaw and operculum that can result in infections, trouble feeding, or trouble breathing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of catch-and-release as a recreational activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Josh, I agree. Like Ari Gold said - &quot;Even broccoli screams when you rip it from the ground.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, I agree. Like Ari Gold said &#8211; &#8220;Even broccoli screams when you rip it from the ground.&#8221;</p>
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