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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/08/28/balancing-giving-and-saving/#comment-956638</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree.  I do find that the idea of charity conflicts with that of saving.  I save so that in case of an emergency I am prepared, but what about those who are so much less fortunate than I that are going through that emergency now?  I feel like saving is saying I am worth more money than these people, who are, for the most part, only in a more desperate situation than I due to who they were born to (class, how they were raised).  What could make one human life worth a higher dollar amount than another?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree.  I do find that the idea of charity conflicts with that of saving.  I save so that in case of an emergency I am prepared, but what about those who are so much less fortunate than I that are going through that emergency now?  I feel like saving is saying I am worth more money than these people, who are, for the most part, only in a more desperate situation than I due to who they were born to (class, how they were raised).  What could make one human life worth a higher dollar amount than another?</p>
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		<title>By: Baley</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/08/28/balancing-giving-and-saving/#comment-956602</link>
		<dc:creator>Baley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not &quot;a charitable act, in itself&quot; to take care of myself financially. That&#039;s ridiculous. It is a selfish act to take care of myself, and it takes giving up some of my selfishness to give money to someone less fortunate. I don&#039;t think you can just cop out of giving because you&#039;re not taking charity from someone else. If everyone did that, no one would give. Also, it&#039;s great to plan to give from your estate once you die, but that&#039;s not helping you grow as a person. Giving is good for the soul. Those who can, should give. If you can&#039;t give money, then as Trent and others have said, give time. If you can&#039;t give either, then get yourself in a better position so that you can. But don&#039;t pretend you&#039;re being charitable by saving up money for the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not &#8220;a charitable act, in itself&#8221; to take care of myself financially. That&#8217;s ridiculous. It is a selfish act to take care of myself, and it takes giving up some of my selfishness to give money to someone less fortunate. I don&#8217;t think you can just cop out of giving because you&#8217;re not taking charity from someone else. If everyone did that, no one would give. Also, it&#8217;s great to plan to give from your estate once you die, but that&#8217;s not helping you grow as a person. Giving is good for the soul. Those who can, should give. If you can&#8217;t give money, then as Trent and others have said, give time. If you can&#8217;t give either, then get yourself in a better position so that you can. But don&#8217;t pretend you&#8217;re being charitable by saving up money for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/08/28/balancing-giving-and-saving/#comment-956588</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Volunteer work - &quot;giving time&quot; - is a great thing to do, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s right to consider it an equal substitute for giving money.  Organizations can&#039;t run on volunteer time alone.  They need money to pay their staff, rent their office space, keep the lights on, buy materials, and so forth.

If you&#039;re at a place in your life where you have a lot of spare time but little or no spare money, then by all means volunteer.  But that&#039;s not the situation Sharon&#039;s asking about.  She does have some spare money, and is wondering how much of it to give away and how much to save for herself.  Saying &quot;just give your time instead&quot; doesn&#039;t really answer the question, because once she&#039;s given her time, she&#039;s still left with the question of what to do with her money.

If you&#039;re in a situation where you need to decide between giving time and giving money (although I have trouble imagining how that would arise - why not give both, if you have some of each?), the way to decide is to ask the organization you want to help what they need most.  (And be prepared to hear that what they need most is not what you&#039;re most interested in giving.)  Because in the end, that&#039;s what it&#039;s all about - what&#039;s the most beneficial to the people or cause you want to benefit, not what&#039;s most &quot;meaningful&quot; or &quot;deliberate&quot; for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volunteer work &#8211; &#8220;giving time&#8221; &#8211; is a great thing to do, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s right to consider it an equal substitute for giving money.  Organizations can&#8217;t run on volunteer time alone.  They need money to pay their staff, rent their office space, keep the lights on, buy materials, and so forth.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re at a place in your life where you have a lot of spare time but little or no spare money, then by all means volunteer.  But that&#8217;s not the situation Sharon&#8217;s asking about.  She does have some spare money, and is wondering how much of it to give away and how much to save for herself.  Saying &#8220;just give your time instead&#8221; doesn&#8217;t really answer the question, because once she&#8217;s given her time, she&#8217;s still left with the question of what to do with her money.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in a situation where you need to decide between giving time and giving money (although I have trouble imagining how that would arise &#8211; why not give both, if you have some of each?), the way to decide is to ask the organization you want to help what they need most.  (And be prepared to hear that what they need most is not what you&#8217;re most interested in giving.)  Because in the end, that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about &#8211; what&#8217;s the most beneficial to the people or cause you want to benefit, not what&#8217;s most &#8220;meaningful&#8221; or &#8220;deliberate&#8221; for you.</p>
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		<title>By: valleycat1</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/08/28/balancing-giving-and-saving/#comment-956578</link>
		<dc:creator>valleycat1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#6, Debbie M - I take an honest look at how I&#039;m spending my time &amp; what my responsibilities are.  Once your responsibilities that take time (including but not limited to family, church obligations, work, household, sleep &amp; exercise) are accounted for, look at what time you have left &amp; how you spend it.  Could you take a block of time each day, week or month from your &#039;me&#039; time without feeling overextended?  Some people are better able to take a day or two each year (like for Habitat for Humanity) rather than regular time each week.  I&#039;m an extreme introvert, and being around a lot of people all the time exhausts me, so less frequent larger blocks of time (or something that&#039;s one-on-one) work better for me; my child is just the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6, Debbie M &#8211; I take an honest look at how I&#8217;m spending my time &amp; what my responsibilities are.  Once your responsibilities that take time (including but not limited to family, church obligations, work, household, sleep &amp; exercise) are accounted for, look at what time you have left &amp; how you spend it.  Could you take a block of time each day, week or month from your &#8216;me&#8217; time without feeling overextended?  Some people are better able to take a day or two each year (like for Habitat for Humanity) rather than regular time each week.  I&#8217;m an extreme introvert, and being around a lot of people all the time exhausts me, so less frequent larger blocks of time (or something that&#8217;s one-on-one) work better for me; my child is just the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those of you who give your time, how do you decide how much time to give to the needy and how much time to keep for yourself?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who give your time, how do you decide how much time to give to the needy and how much time to keep for yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie M</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/08/28/balancing-giving-and-saving/#comment-956573</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome answer, Johanna!

Once I no longer needed all my money for myself, I had the same question.  Part of me felt that I should give as much as I could afford to without going into poverty myself.  But part of me didn&#039;t want to give away half my income--I wanted it all for myself.  I looked up the average amount that other Americans were donating (back then it was something crazy small, like 3%) and decided that anything more was a good compromise.  I ended up settling on the Biblical 10% as a final goal (I worked my way up to it slowly).  That doesn&#039;t all go to the poor--much of it is for the environment and to fight pain and abuse.

Since then I&#039;ve added another 1% for things I actually use but don&#039;t have to pay for (like public TV and free computer resources) and another 1% to promote things I wish we had (like more biking trails).  The former is kind of like paying people back and the latter is almost wholly selfish, though it helps others with my same wants.

I&#039;ve also decided I&#039;d like to set aside a certain amount to lend family and friends when a loan could help them get to a place where they could better help themselves, though currently I just take that money out of my &quot;fun&quot; budget.

I&#039;ve decided not to feel guilty that I could afford more but don&#039;t pay more.  Mostly because feeling guilty is no fun.  Because I&#039;ve chosen a percentage, then when I make more, I also donate more, so that&#039;s good, though it probably should be like income tax where the percentage goes up as my earnings go up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome answer, Johanna!</p>
<p>Once I no longer needed all my money for myself, I had the same question.  Part of me felt that I should give as much as I could afford to without going into poverty myself.  But part of me didn&#8217;t want to give away half my income&#8211;I wanted it all for myself.  I looked up the average amount that other Americans were donating (back then it was something crazy small, like 3%) and decided that anything more was a good compromise.  I ended up settling on the Biblical 10% as a final goal (I worked my way up to it slowly).  That doesn&#8217;t all go to the poor&#8211;much of it is for the environment and to fight pain and abuse.</p>
<p>Since then I&#8217;ve added another 1% for things I actually use but don&#8217;t have to pay for (like public TV and free computer resources) and another 1% to promote things I wish we had (like more biking trails).  The former is kind of like paying people back and the latter is almost wholly selfish, though it helps others with my same wants.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also decided I&#8217;d like to set aside a certain amount to lend family and friends when a loan could help them get to a place where they could better help themselves, though currently I just take that money out of my &#8220;fun&#8221; budget.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve decided not to feel guilty that I could afford more but don&#8217;t pay more.  Mostly because feeling guilty is no fun.  Because I&#8217;ve chosen a percentage, then when I make more, I also donate more, so that&#8217;s good, though it probably should be like income tax where the percentage goes up as my earnings go up.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker carl</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/08/28/balancing-giving-and-saving/#comment-956562</link>
		<dc:creator>lurker carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charitable giving includes donating time, knowledge, skilled hands and strong backs.  Money, without people, is only paper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charitable giving includes donating time, knowledge, skilled hands and strong backs.  Money, without people, is only paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat S</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/08/28/balancing-giving-and-saving/#comment-956560</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great question. While giving is definitely a worthwhile cause, if you are one paycheck away from getting evicted because you have inadequate savings, you are in no position to give. You are only one paycheck away from being a charity case yourself. Wouldn&#039;t it be better to provide for yourself in worst case scenarios and give from the heart when you are assured of your own financial security (or at least build a little cushion).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question. While giving is definitely a worthwhile cause, if you are one paycheck away from getting evicted because you have inadequate savings, you are in no position to give. You are only one paycheck away from being a charity case yourself. Wouldn&#8217;t it be better to provide for yourself in worst case scenarios and give from the heart when you are assured of your own financial security (or at least build a little cushion).</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/08/28/balancing-giving-and-saving/#comment-956558</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sounds like what Sharon is asking (even if she wouldn&#039;t put it quite this bluntly) is &quot;How much do I need to give to charity before I can feel good about keeping the rest of my money for myself?&quot;  Which is indeed a difficult question.  Here&#039;s how I answer it:

It&#039;s been estimated that a transfer of 1% of the rich world&#039;s income to the poor world would be enough to alleviate the worst effects of poverty.  (The number may be a bit higher now, with the increasing effects of climate-related disasters, but that&#039;s the right order of magnitude.)  So I regard 1% as a good minimum amount to give - it&#039;s doing your share, but no more.  But eventually, you&#039;ll want to give more, to make up for other people who aren&#039;t doing their share.

So start by giving 1%, and then as your income increases (as hopefully it will), increase your donation by a portion of your pay raise.  That&#039;s what I did, starting five years ago, and my donation is now up to 7% of my income.  Could I give more?  Sure I could.  And in the very near future, I will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like what Sharon is asking (even if she wouldn&#8217;t put it quite this bluntly) is &#8220;How much do I need to give to charity before I can feel good about keeping the rest of my money for myself?&#8221;  Which is indeed a difficult question.  Here&#8217;s how I answer it:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been estimated that a transfer of 1% of the rich world&#8217;s income to the poor world would be enough to alleviate the worst effects of poverty.  (The number may be a bit higher now, with the increasing effects of climate-related disasters, but that&#8217;s the right order of magnitude.)  So I regard 1% as a good minimum amount to give &#8211; it&#8217;s doing your share, but no more.  But eventually, you&#8217;ll want to give more, to make up for other people who aren&#8217;t doing their share.</p>
<p>So start by giving 1%, and then as your income increases (as hopefully it will), increase your donation by a portion of your pay raise.  That&#8217;s what I did, starting five years ago, and my donation is now up to 7% of my income.  Could I give more?  Sure I could.  And in the very near future, I will.</p>
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		<title>By: krantcents</title>
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		<dc:creator>krantcents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, the conflict is certainly in the spending choices.  I think it is not just the money you spend, but how you use your time.  This year I plan to start volunteering.  Giving my time is even more deliberate than just writing a check.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the conflict is certainly in the spending choices.  I think it is not just the money you spend, but how you use your time.  This year I plan to start volunteering.  Giving my time is even more deliberate than just writing a check.</p>
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