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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961450</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems to me that you&#039;ve got an axe to grind. The premise of this conversation has nothing whatsoever to do with anything besides weight issues, which boil down to 1) phyical ability/health, and 2) appearance. Those are the areas which I&#039;ve discussed because they&#039;re the ones which are relevent. If we want to delve into every detail of what I desire in a mate, we&#039;d probably be here quite some time.

And what I&#039;m talking about above isn&#039;t if something horrible happens to my partner, but rather if they quit taking care of themselves, or their personality changes to the point where we no longer have anything in common. In that case, then yes, I don&#039;t see a reason to continue to be with that person. I never said that I&#039;d abandon the relationship if some my girlfriend was injured, or experienced some type of debilitating disease.

Is it really so horrible that a guy (me) who takes care of himself physically, and who prides himself in his appearance also expect the same in a partner? I don&#039;t think it is. I happen to think I&#039;m a relatively attractive person, and I want to be with a relatively attractive partner. I&#039;m not sure what the problem with that is. And I&#039;m also an active person, who likes to be outdoors engaged in activities that require strength and endurance. I&#039;m not going to be rock climbing in Yosemite with a girlfriend who is out of shape and overweight. So, explain to me why I should want to be with someone who can&#039;t keep up.

But those are only two aspects of what I&#039;m looking for in a partner, and if you want to judge me because I haven&#039;t written a laundry list of character traits that I look for in a partner, that&#039;s quite okay with me. But I&#039;d caution you not to rush to judgement about a person based on what you read in the comments of a blog. You&#039;re only getting a one-dimensional view of that person. Had this been a conversation about intelligence, or kindness, or compassion, the conversation would have been starkly different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that you&#8217;ve got an axe to grind. The premise of this conversation has nothing whatsoever to do with anything besides weight issues, which boil down to 1) phyical ability/health, and 2) appearance. Those are the areas which I&#8217;ve discussed because they&#8217;re the ones which are relevent. If we want to delve into every detail of what I desire in a mate, we&#8217;d probably be here quite some time.</p>
<p>And what I&#8217;m talking about above isn&#8217;t if something horrible happens to my partner, but rather if they quit taking care of themselves, or their personality changes to the point where we no longer have anything in common. In that case, then yes, I don&#8217;t see a reason to continue to be with that person. I never said that I&#8217;d abandon the relationship if some my girlfriend was injured, or experienced some type of debilitating disease.</p>
<p>Is it really so horrible that a guy (me) who takes care of himself physically, and who prides himself in his appearance also expect the same in a partner? I don&#8217;t think it is. I happen to think I&#8217;m a relatively attractive person, and I want to be with a relatively attractive partner. I&#8217;m not sure what the problem with that is. And I&#8217;m also an active person, who likes to be outdoors engaged in activities that require strength and endurance. I&#8217;m not going to be rock climbing in Yosemite with a girlfriend who is out of shape and overweight. So, explain to me why I should want to be with someone who can&#8217;t keep up.</p>
<p>But those are only two aspects of what I&#8217;m looking for in a partner, and if you want to judge me because I haven&#8217;t written a laundry list of character traits that I look for in a partner, that&#8217;s quite okay with me. But I&#8217;d caution you not to rush to judgement about a person based on what you read in the comments of a blog. You&#8217;re only getting a one-dimensional view of that person. Had this been a conversation about intelligence, or kindness, or compassion, the conversation would have been starkly different.</p>
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		<title>By: PawPrint</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961438</link>
		<dc:creator>PawPrint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s what you said, Steven:

&quot;I want to be with an attractive partner, who not only looks good, but is physically fit. I’m an active person (rock climbing, mountain climbing, runner, cyclist) and I want to be with someone who can keep up.  I want to be with an attractive partner, who not only looks good, but is physically fit. I’m an active person (rock climbing, mountain climbing, runner, cyclist) and I want to be with someone who can keep up. . . . That’s an issue for me. . . You want someone to climb the mountains with you, but they can’t. You want someone to run a marathon with you, but they can’t. THAT aspect of the relationship will hurt things more than physical appearance. Sure, I want a girlfriend who looks like a model, so shoot me, but I also want one who can keep up with me and my lifestyle. It doesn’t make sense for me to be with someone who can’t. . .&quot; 

Did you mention intelligence in your partner? Did you mention kindness and compassion? You mentioned looks like a model and keeps up with you. So, yeah, IMHO you&#039;re pretty shallow, and from what I read, if something happened to your model girlfriend to make her unattractive and unable to keep up physically, you&#039;d find someone else who meets your standards (&quot;It doesn&#039;t make sense for me to be with someone who can&#039;t. . .&quot;). From what I read in your responses, I see no commitment to someone if they eventually do not or cannot meet your high standards. On the other hand, if you find a person exactly like you and something happens to your attractiveness or physical ability, I guess you&#039;d know where you stand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what you said, Steven:</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to be with an attractive partner, who not only looks good, but is physically fit. I’m an active person (rock climbing, mountain climbing, runner, cyclist) and I want to be with someone who can keep up.  I want to be with an attractive partner, who not only looks good, but is physically fit. I’m an active person (rock climbing, mountain climbing, runner, cyclist) and I want to be with someone who can keep up. . . . That’s an issue for me. . . You want someone to climb the mountains with you, but they can’t. You want someone to run a marathon with you, but they can’t. THAT aspect of the relationship will hurt things more than physical appearance. Sure, I want a girlfriend who looks like a model, so shoot me, but I also want one who can keep up with me and my lifestyle. It doesn’t make sense for me to be with someone who can’t. . .&#8221; </p>
<p>Did you mention intelligence in your partner? Did you mention kindness and compassion? You mentioned looks like a model and keeps up with you. So, yeah, IMHO you&#8217;re pretty shallow, and from what I read, if something happened to your model girlfriend to make her unattractive and unable to keep up physically, you&#8217;d find someone else who meets your standards (&#8220;It doesn&#8217;t make sense for me to be with someone who can&#8217;t. . .&#8221;). From what I read in your responses, I see no commitment to someone if they eventually do not or cannot meet your high standards. On the other hand, if you find a person exactly like you and something happens to your attractiveness or physical ability, I guess you&#8217;d know where you stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961428</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@PawPrint: That&#039;s a pretty big assumption to make. I think it says more about you than it does me, really. Just because I know what I want in a partner (and have high expectations) doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m a shallow, cold-hearted jerk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PawPrint: That&#8217;s a pretty big assumption to make. I think it says more about you than it does me, really. Just because I know what I want in a partner (and have high expectations) doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m a shallow, cold-hearted jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: SLCCOM</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961416</link>
		<dc:creator>SLCCOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 04:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: publishing. I recommend booklockerdotcom. Angela Hoy is an honest, ethical lady who will not publish junk. Nor does she steal your copyright, or rip you off. 

Re: Medical &quot;science&quot; and &quot;knowledge.&quot; Most studies involving diet are 1) association studies, not cause-and-effect and 2) based on what people say they eat. Or what they think they remember they ate. Or what they think you want to hear. Or what they think they should say. Not what you call particularly reliable studies to base medical judgments on. 

Not exercising may not be &quot;laziness.&quot; Many cancers, autoimmune diseases and other long-term illnesses first manifest in fatigue, which is often very subtle. It isn&#039;t the same thing as &quot;letting yourself go.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: publishing. I recommend booklockerdotcom. Angela Hoy is an honest, ethical lady who will not publish junk. Nor does she steal your copyright, or rip you off. </p>
<p>Re: Medical &#8220;science&#8221; and &#8220;knowledge.&#8221; Most studies involving diet are 1) association studies, not cause-and-effect and 2) based on what people say they eat. Or what they think they remember they ate. Or what they think you want to hear. Or what they think they should say. Not what you call particularly reliable studies to base medical judgments on. </p>
<p>Not exercising may not be &#8220;laziness.&#8221; Many cancers, autoimmune diseases and other long-term illnesses first manifest in fatigue, which is often very subtle. It isn&#8217;t the same thing as &#8220;letting yourself go.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PawPrint</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961415</link>
		<dc:creator>PawPrint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel sorry for Steven&#039;s girlfriend if she becomes disabled for some reason. Sounds like he&#039;d dump her in a heartbeat. That&#039;s pretty sad. I hope that he has told her in advance that if she has a disabling accident, is diagnosed with MS or another debilitating disease, or has to take medication that makes her gain weight, he&#039;s gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for Steven&#8217;s girlfriend if she becomes disabled for some reason. Sounds like he&#8217;d dump her in a heartbeat. That&#8217;s pretty sad. I hope that he has told her in advance that if she has a disabling accident, is diagnosed with MS or another debilitating disease, or has to take medication that makes her gain weight, he&#8217;s gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961369</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can not tell your husband to exercise. You can ask him to come on a romantic walk with you after dinner every night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can not tell your husband to exercise. You can ask him to come on a romantic walk with you after dinner every night.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill in NC</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961335</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill in NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Linda, 

I was the same BMI as your husband when I was his age.

BUT, now that I&#039;m older (about a decade) my BMI is 33.

Keep in mind I was _never_ heavy as a child or young adult - only started gaining weight in my late 20s.

I am starting to have some joint/muscle issues with all this excess weight, which has limited my mobility.

Please show him this reply and remind him it is far easier to lose weight and keep it off at his age and BMI than at mine.

I agree with the other posters who say cut out refined carbs and boost protein (for satiety).

I have radically changed my diet but even still it will be awhile before I can drop back below a BMI of 30.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda, </p>
<p>I was the same BMI as your husband when I was his age.</p>
<p>BUT, now that I&#8217;m older (about a decade) my BMI is 33.</p>
<p>Keep in mind I was _never_ heavy as a child or young adult &#8211; only started gaining weight in my late 20s.</p>
<p>I am starting to have some joint/muscle issues with all this excess weight, which has limited my mobility.</p>
<p>Please show him this reply and remind him it is far easier to lose weight and keep it off at his age and BMI than at mine.</p>
<p>I agree with the other posters who say cut out refined carbs and boost protein (for satiety).</p>
<p>I have radically changed my diet but even still it will be awhile before I can drop back below a BMI of 30.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961316</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that there&#039;s any situation where you &quot;should&quot; stay in a marriage you don&#039;t want to be in.  However, some people either (a) truly feel like they want their commitments to be for life and want to figure out how to be happiest in that framework, or (b) find that changing their expectations to stay in an otherwise good relationship is better than keeping their expectations the same and leaving it.  Again, doesn&#039;t matter if you&#039;re not one of those people but I still hold that if you plan to be with someone for a matter of decades, you&#039;re going to have to accept that some of the ways they change probably won&#039;t be to your liking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that there&#8217;s any situation where you &#8220;should&#8221; stay in a marriage you don&#8217;t want to be in.  However, some people either (a) truly feel like they want their commitments to be for life and want to figure out how to be happiest in that framework, or (b) find that changing their expectations to stay in an otherwise good relationship is better than keeping their expectations the same and leaving it.  Again, doesn&#8217;t matter if you&#8217;re not one of those people but I still hold that if you plan to be with someone for a matter of decades, you&#8217;re going to have to accept that some of the ways they change probably won&#8217;t be to your liking.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961310</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;ve been a relationship for 5 years now, so I suppose that qualifies as long-term. And I&#039;m actually less interested in someone who looks a certain way than I am with someone who lives a certain way. Yes, I want someone who cares about their appearances, and is easy on the eyes, but it&#039;s not my primary motivation for being with someone (despite what might have been conveyed here.)

@Jonathan: Thank you. I do have high expectations in a partner, but I also have equally high expectations for myself. I&#039;m very open with my expectations for every aspect of my life with my girlfriend, and there aren&#039;t any secrets.

I think it&#039;s like anything else, really. Certain personalities are drawn to each other. And sometimes people change (could be that both partners were originally lazy, and that worked for them until one decided to get active, and now their partner no longer &quot;works&quot; for the direction they want their life to progress.) If the change reaches a point where it is hurting the relationship, or the person is no longer happy being with that person, why should they stay? I know that sounds really harsh, and goes against a lot of people&#039;s &quot;til death&quot; beliefs with marriage, but I don&#039;t believe people should be unsatisfied with their life just because they decided to get married.

Divorce is justified in so many other instances, why not in situations where the people just don&#039;t &quot;work&quot; together? If their personalities diverge. If what originally brought them together no longer exists? Is marriage reason enough to stay together even if you&#039;re unhappy?

In my opinion, it&#039;s not. Of course, people will disagree. But, I just think life is too short to be unhappy. And you shouldn&#039;t have to force a person to change into what you want them to be. Either they are, or they aren&#039;t. They want to be, or they don&#039;t. If they aren&#039;t willing to make a change, should you just accept that? I guess it&#039;s up to the individual...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve been a relationship for 5 years now, so I suppose that qualifies as long-term. And I&#8217;m actually less interested in someone who looks a certain way than I am with someone who lives a certain way. Yes, I want someone who cares about their appearances, and is easy on the eyes, but it&#8217;s not my primary motivation for being with someone (despite what might have been conveyed here.)</p>
<p>@Jonathan: Thank you. I do have high expectations in a partner, but I also have equally high expectations for myself. I&#8217;m very open with my expectations for every aspect of my life with my girlfriend, and there aren&#8217;t any secrets.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s like anything else, really. Certain personalities are drawn to each other. And sometimes people change (could be that both partners were originally lazy, and that worked for them until one decided to get active, and now their partner no longer &#8220;works&#8221; for the direction they want their life to progress.) If the change reaches a point where it is hurting the relationship, or the person is no longer happy being with that person, why should they stay? I know that sounds really harsh, and goes against a lot of people&#8217;s &#8220;til death&#8221; beliefs with marriage, but I don&#8217;t believe people should be unsatisfied with their life just because they decided to get married.</p>
<p>Divorce is justified in so many other instances, why not in situations where the people just don&#8217;t &#8220;work&#8221; together? If their personalities diverge. If what originally brought them together no longer exists? Is marriage reason enough to stay together even if you&#8217;re unhappy?</p>
<p>In my opinion, it&#8217;s not. Of course, people will disagree. But, I just think life is too short to be unhappy. And you shouldn&#8217;t have to force a person to change into what you want them to be. Either they are, or they aren&#8217;t. They want to be, or they don&#8217;t. If they aren&#8217;t willing to make a change, should you just accept that? I guess it&#8217;s up to the individual&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven,

I&#039;ll jump in and say that I can&#039;t see any issue with the preferences for a partner that you&#039;ve described. You clearly know what you&#039;re looking for and are prepared to take action if/when your current partner changes in a way that no longer fits that idea. 

Of course if your partner is not aware of your views then a problem could arise. Someone might consider it unfair that they weren&#039;t told that they had to remain fit and active their entire life in order to stay with you. From what you&#039;ve said here, however, it seems unlikely that this would happen. I suspect that your expectations for a partner are pretty clear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll jump in and say that I can&#8217;t see any issue with the preferences for a partner that you&#8217;ve described. You clearly know what you&#8217;re looking for and are prepared to take action if/when your current partner changes in a way that no longer fits that idea. </p>
<p>Of course if your partner is not aware of your views then a problem could arise. Someone might consider it unfair that they weren&#8217;t told that they had to remain fit and active their entire life in order to stay with you. From what you&#8217;ve said here, however, it seems unlikely that this would happen. I suspect that your expectations for a partner are pretty clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961272</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kevin, BMI was created by a mathaematician, not a doctor, so the government could determine obesity.  As I said before, it doesn&#039;t take into account muscle mass, bone density, or fat...just height and weight.  It&#039;s generalized in the sense that it&#039;s based on a sedantary lifestyle.  It doesn&#039;t account for activity.  Insurance companies want to keep BMI as an indicator so they can charge higher premiums since healthy and fit people even have a overweight/obese BMI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin, BMI was created by a mathaematician, not a doctor, so the government could determine obesity.  As I said before, it doesn&#8217;t take into account muscle mass, bone density, or fat&#8230;just height and weight.  It&#8217;s generalized in the sense that it&#8217;s based on a sedantary lifestyle.  It doesn&#8217;t account for activity.  Insurance companies want to keep BMI as an indicator so they can charge higher premiums since healthy and fit people even have a overweight/obese BMI.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961267</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven, nobody is going to tell you that you can&#039;t set whatever standards you want for your partners.  I think all we&#039;re saying is that life is surprising, people are complicated, and the best laid plans of mice and men, etc.  If you want to be in a permanent or very long-term relationship, it behooves you to recognize those things.  If you don&#039;t, which sounds like your situation, it doesn&#039;t really matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, nobody is going to tell you that you can&#8217;t set whatever standards you want for your partners.  I think all we&#8217;re saying is that life is surprising, people are complicated, and the best laid plans of mice and men, etc.  If you want to be in a permanent or very long-term relationship, it behooves you to recognize those things.  If you don&#8217;t, which sounds like your situation, it doesn&#8217;t really matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess you understand my point. (And you obviously know I wasn&#039;t referencing the OP...and obviously I know you&#039;re being sarcastic.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you understand my point. (And you obviously know I wasn&#8217;t referencing the OP&#8230;and obviously I know you&#8217;re being sarcastic.)</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s also rubbish to believe that someone&#039;s body has &quot;fallen apart&quot; when all you know about him is that his BMI is 27.  I know you didn&#039;t say that, but I do feel it&#039;s somewhat implied. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also rubbish to believe that someone&#8217;s body has &#8220;fallen apart&#8221; when all you know about him is that his BMI is 27.  I know you didn&#8217;t say that, but I do feel it&#8217;s somewhat implied. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/13/reader-mailbag-ankle-twist/#comment-961262</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Johanna: I have no intentions of ever getting married, simply because I don&#039;t see a point. And there are plenty of examples of women who&#039;ve taken care of themselves who are just as beautiful when they get older as they&#039;ve ever been.

If I&#039;m going to take care of myself, stay active and fit, and just generally care about my appearance, yes, I&#039;d like to be with someone who does the same. It&#039;s not about whether or not their body changes, of course it will. But to believe that just because someone gets older, their bodies fall apart is just rubbish (and I know you didn&#039;t say that, but I do feel it&#039;s somewhat implied.)

If one person in a relationship takes care of themselves, and the other doesn&#039;t...well, they write to Trent for answers. Clearly it&#039;s an issue. And it&#039;d be an issue for me as well. At least I&#039;m being honest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johanna: I have no intentions of ever getting married, simply because I don&#8217;t see a point. And there are plenty of examples of women who&#8217;ve taken care of themselves who are just as beautiful when they get older as they&#8217;ve ever been.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m going to take care of myself, stay active and fit, and just generally care about my appearance, yes, I&#8217;d like to be with someone who does the same. It&#8217;s not about whether or not their body changes, of course it will. But to believe that just because someone gets older, their bodies fall apart is just rubbish (and I know you didn&#8217;t say that, but I do feel it&#8217;s somewhat implied.)</p>
<p>If one person in a relationship takes care of themselves, and the other doesn&#8217;t&#8230;well, they write to Trent for answers. Clearly it&#8217;s an issue. And it&#8217;d be an issue for me as well. At least I&#8217;m being honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kevin: Fat hatred in the medical profession is a widespread and widely documented phenomenon.  You don&#039;t have to dig too deeply to find more anecdotes than you care to read about (for example) people who go to the doctor for things completely unrelated to their weight - like an ear infection - and the doctor says &quot;the solution is for you to lose weight.&quot;

As someone who&#039;s spent more time in school than the average medical doctor, I can tell you that there&#039;s nothing magical about education that makes you immune to the prejudices that affect everybody else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin: Fat hatred in the medical profession is a widespread and widely documented phenomenon.  You don&#8217;t have to dig too deeply to find more anecdotes than you care to read about (for example) people who go to the doctor for things completely unrelated to their weight &#8211; like an ear infection &#8211; and the doctor says &#8220;the solution is for you to lose weight.&#8221;</p>
<p>As someone who&#8217;s spent more time in school than the average medical doctor, I can tell you that there&#8217;s nothing magical about education that makes you immune to the prejudices that affect everybody else.</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q2, you have my sympathies. Some people get it - there&#039;s a difference between losing your looks to aging or tragic accidents versus losing your looks due to apathy. For better or worse shouldn&#039;t include your mate hitting the self-destruct button.

It could be depression, it could be passive aggression, it could be he&#039;s letting it all hang out. I wish more people would make an effort to stay attractive for their partners instead of pretending it doesn&#039;t matter or that it&#039;s a character defect to care what your partner looks like after the rings are exchanged.

If, with no obvious trauma or illness, you stopped caring if your partner was physically attracted to you, isn&#039;t that a sign that something is wrong? Is it really something that is expected to die in a relationship?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q2, you have my sympathies. Some people get it &#8211; there&#8217;s a difference between losing your looks to aging or tragic accidents versus losing your looks due to apathy. For better or worse shouldn&#8217;t include your mate hitting the self-destruct button.</p>
<p>It could be depression, it could be passive aggression, it could be he&#8217;s letting it all hang out. I wish more people would make an effort to stay attractive for their partners instead of pretending it doesn&#8217;t matter or that it&#8217;s a character defect to care what your partner looks like after the rings are exchanged.</p>
<p>If, with no obvious trauma or illness, you stopped caring if your partner was physically attracted to you, isn&#8217;t that a sign that something is wrong? Is it really something that is expected to die in a relationship?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Johanna:  Well, all they have to base their opinion on is a decade of schooling, years of experience, peer-reviewed medical journals, and knowledge of the links between obesity and the litany of health complications it brings.

We, of course, have the Internet and Wikipedia.  So maybe you&#039;re right, maybe they could learn a lot from us.

BMI isn&#039;t perfect.  It doesn&#039;t work for pro wrestlers.  We know this.  But guess what?  Doctors know this too.  When a 220-pound, 6-foot-5 built-like-a-tank pro wrestler goes to the doctor and clearly has almost no bodyfat, the doctor is NOT going to just run the numbers and say, &quot;Gee, your BMI shows you as overweight.  I&#039;m recommending a diet.&quot;  Doctors aren&#039;t idiots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johanna:  Well, all they have to base their opinion on is a decade of schooling, years of experience, peer-reviewed medical journals, and knowledge of the links between obesity and the litany of health complications it brings.</p>
<p>We, of course, have the Internet and Wikipedia.  So maybe you&#8217;re right, maybe they could learn a lot from us.</p>
<p>BMI isn&#8217;t perfect.  It doesn&#8217;t work for pro wrestlers.  We know this.  But guess what?  Doctors know this too.  When a 220-pound, 6-foot-5 built-like-a-tank pro wrestler goes to the doctor and clearly has almost no bodyfat, the doctor is NOT going to just run the numbers and say, &#8220;Gee, your BMI shows you as overweight.  I&#8217;m recommending a diet.&#8221;  Doctors aren&#8217;t idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kevin: When it comes to the relationship between weight and health, from the stories I&#039;ve heard, a great many doctors are...maybe not &quot;idiots,&quot; but pretty seriously misguided.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin: When it comes to the relationship between weight and health, from the stories I&#8217;ve heard, a great many doctors are&#8230;maybe not &#8220;idiots,&#8221; but pretty seriously misguided.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jonathan: &quot;If the person doesn’t actually intend to exercise and eat better, though, and just agrees because that is what the spouse wants to hear then he/she is lying.&quot;

He may be lying to himself, though, too, not just to his spouse.  He may think he wants to change his habits, because he&#039;s been told over and over again that that&#039;s what he *should* want, but deep down it&#039;s just not a priority for him, and so it&#039;s never going to actually happen.  I&#039;d put at least as much blame on all the people who beat him over the head with the idea that &quot;not wanting to lose weight&quot; is not an option, as I&#039;d put on him for lying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jonathan: &#8220;If the person doesn’t actually intend to exercise and eat better, though, and just agrees because that is what the spouse wants to hear then he/she is lying.&#8221;</p>
<p>He may be lying to himself, though, too, not just to his spouse.  He may think he wants to change his habits, because he&#8217;s been told over and over again that that&#8217;s what he *should* want, but deep down it&#8217;s just not a priority for him, and so it&#8217;s never going to actually happen.  I&#8217;d put at least as much blame on all the people who beat him over the head with the idea that &#8220;not wanting to lose weight&#8221; is not an option, as I&#8217;d put on him for lying.</p>
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