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	<title>Comments on: Saving Pennies or Dollars?  Riding a Bicycle</title>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/14/saving-pennies-or-dollars-riding-a-bicycle/#comment-961619</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[35 years ago, before something in my lower back went out and my knees quit working as designer intended, I enjoyed riding a bicycle.  

The bicycle is a marvel of simplicity in engineering.  A device that then could be bought new for $250 multiplied your walking speed by a factor of 4. Compare that to a car that might then cost $5,000 new that could multiply your average speed by a factor 12 on the same local commute.  By the way, that is generous.  My average speed on my current local commute according to my car’s computer is actually 29 mph.

As far as cost per mile, well I use to enjoy a 70 mile round trip ride to a neighboring town and back on a nice Saturday.  I discovered the cost in fried pies and sodas required to keep my bicycle on the road on this journey was almost exactly the same as the cost of gasoline for the same trip.  

Back in those days, when the weather allowed, I also commuted 7 miles (one way) to work.  Really, bicycle commuting isn’t practical given this country’s notion of personal hygiene without a shower and a locker containing work clothes at your place of employment.  At one place I worked back in the day, a genius (really) from an Eastern block country, considered riding a bicycle the normal preferred method of commuting.  The powers that be kept him locked up in a backroom where the customers would not be offended by his body odor. 

If you are young enough and healthy enough to enjoy a bicycle, go for it.  Not as a proof of your frugality, but as a joy.  One of my many regrets is not riding across the country or riding the length of US 1 on my bicycle when my heart, knees, and back made it a real possibility.   

By the way, you bicycle riders out there, stop at stop signs (I didn’t) and stay out of the middle of the road, especially on narrow country roads with blind curves and short choppy hills.  You will live longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>35 years ago, before something in my lower back went out and my knees quit working as designer intended, I enjoyed riding a bicycle.  </p>
<p>The bicycle is a marvel of simplicity in engineering.  A device that then could be bought new for $250 multiplied your walking speed by a factor of 4. Compare that to a car that might then cost $5,000 new that could multiply your average speed by a factor 12 on the same local commute.  By the way, that is generous.  My average speed on my current local commute according to my car’s computer is actually 29 mph.</p>
<p>As far as cost per mile, well I use to enjoy a 70 mile round trip ride to a neighboring town and back on a nice Saturday.  I discovered the cost in fried pies and sodas required to keep my bicycle on the road on this journey was almost exactly the same as the cost of gasoline for the same trip.  </p>
<p>Back in those days, when the weather allowed, I also commuted 7 miles (one way) to work.  Really, bicycle commuting isn’t practical given this country’s notion of personal hygiene without a shower and a locker containing work clothes at your place of employment.  At one place I worked back in the day, a genius (really) from an Eastern block country, considered riding a bicycle the normal preferred method of commuting.  The powers that be kept him locked up in a backroom where the customers would not be offended by his body odor. </p>
<p>If you are young enough and healthy enough to enjoy a bicycle, go for it.  Not as a proof of your frugality, but as a joy.  One of my many regrets is not riding across the country or riding the length of US 1 on my bicycle when my heart, knees, and back made it a real possibility.   </p>
<p>By the way, you bicycle riders out there, stop at stop signs (I didn’t) and stay out of the middle of the road, especially on narrow country roads with blind curves and short choppy hills.  You will live longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether biking to do errands or commute full-time is right for an individual clearly involves a careful individualized analysis.  For purposes of this article, the focus is errands within 4 miles and a vehicle that gets 20mpg.  The answer is obvious - ride your bike! My issue is that this articles centers around the cost analysis.  It&#039;s not just a financial decision.  20 miles per gallon is pathetic at best.  Do what&#039;s better for the environment and better for you. Ride a bike!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether biking to do errands or commute full-time is right for an individual clearly involves a careful individualized analysis.  For purposes of this article, the focus is errands within 4 miles and a vehicle that gets 20mpg.  The answer is obvious &#8211; ride your bike! My issue is that this articles centers around the cost analysis.  It&#8217;s not just a financial decision.  20 miles per gallon is pathetic at best.  Do what&#8217;s better for the environment and better for you. Ride a bike!!!</p>
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		<title>By: elyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>elyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Little Pitcher- I used to live in a tiny apartment with no garage and I kept my bike in it with me- I think my bike is very pretty, so I didn&#039;t mind looking at it right there inside.  Sometimes, I would put vases of flowers in the crate for fun.  I even fit a very large cargo bike inside once for a few weeks (I think cargo bikes are ridiculously cool to look at as well).  Currently, we keep our bikes in a locking bike shed.  Pretty easy to find them online, this one cost us about $300 at the big chain hardware store, and it fits neatly under our back porch.  Fits two adult bikes with room to spare.  

I have a friend who is completely paralyzed on one side- he gets around on a recumbent trike pretty handily.  I can find out where he got it if you are interested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little Pitcher- I used to live in a tiny apartment with no garage and I kept my bike in it with me- I think my bike is very pretty, so I didn&#8217;t mind looking at it right there inside.  Sometimes, I would put vases of flowers in the crate for fun.  I even fit a very large cargo bike inside once for a few weeks (I think cargo bikes are ridiculously cool to look at as well).  Currently, we keep our bikes in a locking bike shed.  Pretty easy to find them online, this one cost us about $300 at the big chain hardware store, and it fits neatly under our back porch.  Fits two adult bikes with room to spare.  </p>
<p>I have a friend who is completely paralyzed on one side- he gets around on a recumbent trike pretty handily.  I can find out where he got it if you are interested.</p>
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		<title>By: littlepitcher</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/14/saving-pennies-or-dollars-riding-a-bicycle/#comment-961433</link>
		<dc:creator>littlepitcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Elyn--I&#039;m so totally envious of you!

I have impaired balance due to old child abuse, and would love a multi-speed cargo trike for stability.  The problem?  Theft risks.  Anyone have any ideas on how to secure one without garaging it?  Atlanta&#039;s close enough that thieves could make a few quick benjamins on one just by cutting cables.

Best solution for city dwellers--purchase extended-cab truck cash for hauling family and heavy loads, insure for liability only, and use bike for everything else.  Failing that, rideshare or carpool and use bike for primary transport. I&#039;m a small-town woman, would use bike in town and find an unemployed/underemployed person who needs gas money for longer errands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Elyn&#8211;I&#8217;m so totally envious of you!</p>
<p>I have impaired balance due to old child abuse, and would love a multi-speed cargo trike for stability.  The problem?  Theft risks.  Anyone have any ideas on how to secure one without garaging it?  Atlanta&#8217;s close enough that thieves could make a few quick benjamins on one just by cutting cables.</p>
<p>Best solution for city dwellers&#8211;purchase extended-cab truck cash for hauling family and heavy loads, insure for liability only, and use bike for everything else.  Failing that, rideshare or carpool and use bike for primary transport. I&#8217;m a small-town woman, would use bike in town and find an unemployed/underemployed person who needs gas money for longer errands.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder about those air quality problems...maybe if everyone rode their bikes rather than driving, we wouldn&#039;t *have* air quality problems. Something to consider (though it&#039;ll never happen.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder about those air quality problems&#8230;maybe if everyone rode their bikes rather than driving, we wouldn&#8217;t *have* air quality problems. Something to consider (though it&#8217;ll never happen.)</p>
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		<title>By: deRuiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>deRuiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biking&#039;s really popular in the Netherlands, it saves a lot of money, the Dutch are a thrifty nation.  Biking instead of driving cuts down on air polution and traffic and parking congestion.  Biking&#039;s a good idea  if your town&#039;s fairly flat and crime free.  I have a big basket on the front of my bike and a few bungy cords in case something needs to be carried.  A bike&#039;s pretty handy around town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biking&#8217;s really popular in the Netherlands, it saves a lot of money, the Dutch are a thrifty nation.  Biking instead of driving cuts down on air polution and traffic and parking congestion.  Biking&#8217;s a good idea  if your town&#8217;s fairly flat and crime free.  I have a big basket on the front of my bike and a few bungy cords in case something needs to be carried.  A bike&#8217;s pretty handy around town.</p>
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		<title>By: SwingCheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwingCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to concur with elyn&#039;s comment (#26): my husband has been an avid biker for the entire time I&#039;ve known him (10+ years), and was even before that. He&#039;s had to replace a bike once, when it was stolen. Otherwise, he just repairs and/or upgrades what needs it. For all three of our bikes, I&#039;d estimate that he&#039;s spent around $1500 over the last decade. Not an inconsiderable amount, but not astronomical, either. In my experience, the cost of bike maintenance is negligible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to concur with elyn&#8217;s comment (#26): my husband has been an avid biker for the entire time I&#8217;ve known him (10+ years), and was even before that. He&#8217;s had to replace a bike once, when it was stolen. Otherwise, he just repairs and/or upgrades what needs it. For all three of our bikes, I&#8217;d estimate that he&#8217;s spent around $1500 over the last decade. Not an inconsiderable amount, but not astronomical, either. In my experience, the cost of bike maintenance is negligible.</p>
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		<title>By: elyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>elyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must add a comment in response to the weather/climate comments.  The 7 years that I had a bike as my only vehicle were in Eugene, Oregon, with 9 months of daily rain every year.  I biked everywhere all year, as did (and do) many people who live there.  The right gear keeps you dry- good rain pants, good helmet liner, good rain jacket, and definitely good fenders for your bike so you don&#039;t get the muddy stripe up your back. 

The summers are very hot and dry in Eugene- biking was much cooler than walking, and I never needed a change of clothes for my job- which was retail, dealing with customers, etc.  

I think if you don&#039;t want to bike, you shouldn&#039;t, but if you WANT to bike and the weather intimidates you, it may be worth researching the gear.  I happened to love biking and also happened to be broke during that time, so I made it work, and it worked great.  These days, I like to walk more than bike, but I also drive- it&#039;s easier with 2 kids, and I&#039;m older and lazier than I used to be...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must add a comment in response to the weather/climate comments.  The 7 years that I had a bike as my only vehicle were in Eugene, Oregon, with 9 months of daily rain every year.  I biked everywhere all year, as did (and do) many people who live there.  The right gear keeps you dry- good rain pants, good helmet liner, good rain jacket, and definitely good fenders for your bike so you don&#8217;t get the muddy stripe up your back. </p>
<p>The summers are very hot and dry in Eugene- biking was much cooler than walking, and I never needed a change of clothes for my job- which was retail, dealing with customers, etc.  </p>
<p>I think if you don&#8217;t want to bike, you shouldn&#8217;t, but if you WANT to bike and the weather intimidates you, it may be worth researching the gear.  I happened to love biking and also happened to be broke during that time, so I made it work, and it worked great.  These days, I like to walk more than bike, but I also drive- it&#8217;s easier with 2 kids, and I&#8217;m older and lazier than I used to be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EngineerMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>EngineerMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it interesting that so many people are frowning on biking for running errands because of weather or time.

I walk to do many errands (can&#039;t bike - two small children and roads around here aren&#039;t safe enough for a trailer).  I do it in almost any weather except pouring down rain (misty or foggy - just wear a jacket!), and I mainly do it because it&#039;s way more interesting and feels more &quot;productive&quot; than an hour spent on a treadmill at the gym.

Not that long ago, our culture biked and walked almost everywhere because cars were pretty expensive.  As a community, we were in much better shape (not going to argue the health aspect, since those days were also before many vaccines, antibiotics, and modern surgery).

Do you really save all that much time by driving for errands (I &quot;bundle&quot; my walking errands, too) if you also add in the time you don&#039;t need to spend at the gym?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that so many people are frowning on biking for running errands because of weather or time.</p>
<p>I walk to do many errands (can&#8217;t bike &#8211; two small children and roads around here aren&#8217;t safe enough for a trailer).  I do it in almost any weather except pouring down rain (misty or foggy &#8211; just wear a jacket!), and I mainly do it because it&#8217;s way more interesting and feels more &#8220;productive&#8221; than an hour spent on a treadmill at the gym.</p>
<p>Not that long ago, our culture biked and walked almost everywhere because cars were pretty expensive.  As a community, we were in much better shape (not going to argue the health aspect, since those days were also before many vaccines, antibiotics, and modern surgery).</p>
<p>Do you really save all that much time by driving for errands (I &#8220;bundle&#8221; my walking errands, too) if you also add in the time you don&#8217;t need to spend at the gym?</p>
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		<title>By: Squirrelers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squirrelers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biking as an option depends on distance, terrain, weather, what you&#039;re carrying/bringing back, and time.  

The latter - time - is something I think is often overlooked. Our time isn&#039;t free, and saving a dollar or two on gas might not be worth the potentially significant extra time required by biking. I think it&#039;s better to look at biking from a health/excercise standpoint, as long as the roads/paths are safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biking as an option depends on distance, terrain, weather, what you&#8217;re carrying/bringing back, and time.  </p>
<p>The latter &#8211; time &#8211; is something I think is often overlooked. Our time isn&#8217;t free, and saving a dollar or two on gas might not be worth the potentially significant extra time required by biking. I think it&#8217;s better to look at biking from a health/excercise standpoint, as long as the roads/paths are safe.</p>
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		<title>By: valleycat1</title>
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		<dc:creator>valleycat1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A final problem we have in our area regarding riding bicycles is the climate and air quality.  We have 2-3 months each summer with temps in the high 90&#039;s to upwards of 100 every afternoon/early evening - usually combined with air quality alerts.  Winters are foggy and drizzly.  Not optimum riding weather if you&#039;re using it for a work commute, particularly if you have any distance to ride. I can&#039;t tote a hair dryer &amp; dry clothes every day, and am not willing to wear myself out &amp; sweat through my work outfits in an overheated afternoon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A final problem we have in our area regarding riding bicycles is the climate and air quality.  We have 2-3 months each summer with temps in the high 90&#8242;s to upwards of 100 every afternoon/early evening &#8211; usually combined with air quality alerts.  Winters are foggy and drizzly.  Not optimum riding weather if you&#8217;re using it for a work commute, particularly if you have any distance to ride. I can&#8217;t tote a hair dryer &amp; dry clothes every day, and am not willing to wear myself out &amp; sweat through my work outfits in an overheated afternoon.</p>
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		<title>By: amberwitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>amberwitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I commute to work by bike every day, and it saves a (very small:-) fortune. I bike app. 50 km a day. If I had to pay for public transportation the cost would range from 2x12$ a day for one way tickets to ~200$ for a monthly pass. If I drove a car, I would expect the cost pr. kilometer to be about 0.30$ (leased car, gas, wear and tear) AND I would probably go more like 70 km to avoid congested areas.
The cost of a bike can be anywhere from 200$ to many thousands, but I usually aim at the area of 1200$ - too cheap to be a target for thievery, but a quality that gives me pleasure to use on a daily basis.
With the usage pattern I have, I put 6-7000 km on the bike a year. This results in upkeep in the range of 200 - 300$ a year (changing the gear parts, chain, tires, tubes, brakepads..) Some done myself, some done by professionals.
This means that comparing to the cheapest public transportation, I&#039;ve paid my bike by the 6 or 7 month mark, and for every year after that, I save ~2000$. This is a worthwhile saving for me. Especially considering how much more efficient it is to double my transport time as exercise time as well. The bikeride is app. 1:10 min, whereas the train and busride is an hour sharp. Add in the extra shower and change at each end, and we are approaching 1:25 x 2. So there is a considerable time investment, but not a huge one. Less than an hour pr. day.

I never ran the number for driving a car, since I don&#039;t have a drivers license, but with the above assumptions we are talking double the savings of public transportation.

The risk of injury is higher of course with that many kilometers on highly trafficked roads and with varying visibility levels. This might be included in the cost-benefit analysis, but to me the exercise and freedom cancels out the risk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I commute to work by bike every day, and it saves a (very small:-) fortune. I bike app. 50 km a day. If I had to pay for public transportation the cost would range from 2&#215;12$ a day for one way tickets to ~200$ for a monthly pass. If I drove a car, I would expect the cost pr. kilometer to be about 0.30$ (leased car, gas, wear and tear) AND I would probably go more like 70 km to avoid congested areas.<br />
The cost of a bike can be anywhere from 200$ to many thousands, but I usually aim at the area of 1200$ &#8211; too cheap to be a target for thievery, but a quality that gives me pleasure to use on a daily basis.<br />
With the usage pattern I have, I put 6-7000 km on the bike a year. This results in upkeep in the range of 200 &#8211; 300$ a year (changing the gear parts, chain, tires, tubes, brakepads..) Some done myself, some done by professionals.<br />
This means that comparing to the cheapest public transportation, I&#8217;ve paid my bike by the 6 or 7 month mark, and for every year after that, I save ~2000$. This is a worthwhile saving for me. Especially considering how much more efficient it is to double my transport time as exercise time as well. The bikeride is app. 1:10 min, whereas the train and busride is an hour sharp. Add in the extra shower and change at each end, and we are approaching 1:25 x 2. So there is a considerable time investment, but not a huge one. Less than an hour pr. day.</p>
<p>I never ran the number for driving a car, since I don&#8217;t have a drivers license, but with the above assumptions we are talking double the savings of public transportation.</p>
<p>The risk of injury is higher of course with that many kilometers on highly trafficked roads and with varying visibility levels. This might be included in the cost-benefit analysis, but to me the exercise and freedom cancels out the risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Tizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are so many different ways to analyze this. I have a super cheap mechanic for my car, and it needs brakes. I could get em done for less than $100. I also need insurance, I could get it for about $600/year, but only if I paid up front. I don&#039;t have $700 right now, so I became a bike commuter at the start of the month.

I have a work vehicle, so I just do my errands in that, which makes this super easy for me. I will buy some panniers eventually. I also have friends to work on my bike for me, so repairs will probably cost me parts and a six-pack. 

I recently compared the cost of riding my bike vs driving my car vs taking transit. If I&#039;m a bit disingenuous, transit costs more than my car. But biking most places, and paying for the bus only a couple times a week, plus one cab ride, is much cheaper. Since I can almost walk anywhere as fast as the bus gets there, and can definitely bike (even though I&#039;m still walking up the hills) faster, this is such an easy decision for me. 

In writing this comment, I realized that having work done cheaply is a big part of my cost savings, with any vehicle. I recommend cultivating some kind of support network if at all possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many different ways to analyze this. I have a super cheap mechanic for my car, and it needs brakes. I could get em done for less than $100. I also need insurance, I could get it for about $600/year, but only if I paid up front. I don&#8217;t have $700 right now, so I became a bike commuter at the start of the month.</p>
<p>I have a work vehicle, so I just do my errands in that, which makes this super easy for me. I will buy some panniers eventually. I also have friends to work on my bike for me, so repairs will probably cost me parts and a six-pack. </p>
<p>I recently compared the cost of riding my bike vs driving my car vs taking transit. If I&#8217;m a bit disingenuous, transit costs more than my car. But biking most places, and paying for the bus only a couple times a week, plus one cab ride, is much cheaper. Since I can almost walk anywhere as fast as the bus gets there, and can definitely bike (even though I&#8217;m still walking up the hills) faster, this is such an easy decision for me. </p>
<p>In writing this comment, I realized that having work done cheaply is a big part of my cost savings, with any vehicle. I recommend cultivating some kind of support network if at all possible.</p>
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		<title>By: elyn</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/14/saving-pennies-or-dollars-riding-a-bicycle/#comment-961376</link>
		<dc:creator>elyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have had the same bike since 1993.  I have biked across the US twice on it (total spent on one trip: $600, and that includes lodging though that trip was in &#039;93), and then had it as my only vehicle for 7 years.  Learning to maintain your own bike is much easier and cheaper than learning to do so with a car.  I needed a new chain once in all those years, my wheels have never gone out of true, I&#039;ve changed brake pads about 3 times, replaced the pedals once, replaced handlebars twice, once for comfort, once from breakage. Most of the maintenance has been lube and patching tires, then replacing tubes after I&#039;ve decided I have too many patches on them.  I am pretty sure the total I have spent on maintaining my bike is less than what we spent to replace the clutch on our old car.  

I agree that some of these comparisons (such as insurance) Trent is making would make more sense if you were talking about replacing your bike with a car.  One little thing that is cheaper on a bike- you don&#039;t pay for parking if you go downtown.  A bigger thing, if you do actual bike touring: much much easier to find lodging when you can fit your bike into your tent, or just pull it off road into the woods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the same bike since 1993.  I have biked across the US twice on it (total spent on one trip: $600, and that includes lodging though that trip was in &#8217;93), and then had it as my only vehicle for 7 years.  Learning to maintain your own bike is much easier and cheaper than learning to do so with a car.  I needed a new chain once in all those years, my wheels have never gone out of true, I&#8217;ve changed brake pads about 3 times, replaced the pedals once, replaced handlebars twice, once for comfort, once from breakage. Most of the maintenance has been lube and patching tires, then replacing tubes after I&#8217;ve decided I have too many patches on them.  I am pretty sure the total I have spent on maintaining my bike is less than what we spent to replace the clutch on our old car.  </p>
<p>I agree that some of these comparisons (such as insurance) Trent is making would make more sense if you were talking about replacing your bike with a car.  One little thing that is cheaper on a bike- you don&#8217;t pay for parking if you go downtown.  A bigger thing, if you do actual bike touring: much much easier to find lodging when you can fit your bike into your tent, or just pull it off road into the woods.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker carl</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/14/saving-pennies-or-dollars-riding-a-bicycle/#comment-961375</link>
		<dc:creator>lurker carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one rides a bicycle for &quot;thousands of miles&quot; without incurring expenses.  My experience is tires, inner tubes, brakes, bearings/races, derailleurs, sprockets and chains seldom last thousands of miles.  And if you pedal with sustained effort in order to maintain decent speeds, everything fails faster.  Including the frame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one rides a bicycle for &#8220;thousands of miles&#8221; without incurring expenses.  My experience is tires, inner tubes, brakes, bearings/races, derailleurs, sprockets and chains seldom last thousands of miles.  And if you pedal with sustained effort in order to maintain decent speeds, everything fails faster.  Including the frame.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/14/saving-pennies-or-dollars-riding-a-bicycle/#comment-961372</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bicycles have maintenance costs too.  Every now and then you will get a flat tire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bicycles have maintenance costs too.  Every now and then you will get a flat tire.</p>
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		<title>By: Riki</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/14/saving-pennies-or-dollars-riding-a-bicycle/#comment-961365</link>
		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having groceries delivered is a fantastic way to make a car-free life easier.  I fondly remember those days . . . especially when I was living in Saskatchewan and it was -40 in the middle of the winter.  The $5 delivery fee was worth every single penny for a person who had to walk home with groceries otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having groceries delivered is a fantastic way to make a car-free life easier.  I fondly remember those days . . . especially when I was living in Saskatchewan and it was -40 in the middle of the winter.  The $5 delivery fee was worth every single penny for a person who had to walk home with groceries otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/14/saving-pennies-or-dollars-riding-a-bicycle/#comment-961364</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote my own post with a trackback to here... but apparently Trent doesn&#039;t enable trackbacks!  Feel free to read it on my site... but in essence I completely disagree.  Riding a bike can save THOUSANDS of dollars if the bike is in place for a car, or if you are able to avoid tolls/parking fees by using a bike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote my own post with a trackback to here&#8230; but apparently Trent doesn&#8217;t enable trackbacks!  Feel free to read it on my site&#8230; but in essence I completely disagree.  Riding a bike can save THOUSANDS of dollars if the bike is in place for a car, or if you are able to avoid tolls/parking fees by using a bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Confused</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/14/saving-pennies-or-dollars-riding-a-bicycle/#comment-961355</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the others that you&#039;re underestimating bike maintenance costs.  I ride my bike twice a day five days a week for 20 minutes each time.  I need tune ups at about £50 twice a year.  Even if I do it myself I need to buy degreaser and lube, new brake pads, a new chain every couple of years, etc.

The biggest savings comes if you can drop the car altogether.  Our household (two parents and a 3-year-old) survives just fine with no car.  In a city with a half-decent transit system it is not that hard to survive on foot, bike, and public transit.  We either get our groceries delivered or carry them home with us on the bus or on the bike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the others that you&#8217;re underestimating bike maintenance costs.  I ride my bike twice a day five days a week for 20 minutes each time.  I need tune ups at about £50 twice a year.  Even if I do it myself I need to buy degreaser and lube, new brake pads, a new chain every couple of years, etc.</p>
<p>The biggest savings comes if you can drop the car altogether.  Our household (two parents and a 3-year-old) survives just fine with no car.  In a city with a half-decent transit system it is not that hard to survive on foot, bike, and public transit.  We either get our groceries delivered or carry them home with us on the bus or on the bike.</p>
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		<title>By: valleycat1</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2011/10/14/saving-pennies-or-dollars-riding-a-bicycle/#comment-961353</link>
		<dc:creator>valleycat1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with #9 Dana - we&#039;re also in a bike-unfriendly town (not only the traffic &amp; road conditions, but unfenced dogs and few places to secure the bike, among other things). So if you&#039;re looking at adding bike use to your life, be sure to check that out before you buy a bike or sell the car!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with #9 Dana &#8211; we&#8217;re also in a bike-unfriendly town (not only the traffic &amp; road conditions, but unfenced dogs and few places to secure the bike, among other things). So if you&#8217;re looking at adding bike use to your life, be sure to check that out before you buy a bike or sell the car!</p>
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