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		<title>By: AnnJo</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/01/09/keep-track-of-your-progress-8365/#comment-978175</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For someone starting out on a financial turn-around, I think including market-variable assets (like a house, a stock-bond portfolio, commodities) in a monthly net-worth calculation is going to be of limited utility.  If the purpose is to motivate and show progress toward financial stability, it makes more sense to keep track monthly of current assets and liabilities, possibly adding to the calculation as a current liability the annual amount of desired contribution to a retirement or long-term investment account and the annual goal of desired principal pay-down on a mortgage, shifting those to the current asset column as they are met.

That sounds confusing but here&#039;s an example of what I mean:

Current assets:

Checking account
Savings account
Emergency fund
Funded contribution to IRA year-to-date (YTD)
YTD increase in home equity due to mortgage pay-down

Current liabilities:

Credit cards
Student loans
Car loan
Yearly IRA contribution goal
Yearly goal on mortgage pay-down

Say your goal is to contribute $5000 to an IRA this year.  The year would start with a $5000 liability and zero in the current asset funded IRA, and as you make a contribution, it would decrease your liability and increase your asset.

This would give you a much clearer picture of how well you&#039;re doing in meeting your goals and improving your situation.  (And, by the way, I am aware that calling this a Net Worth calculation would be highly misleading in accounting terms.)

The full-blown net worth is probably only worth doing once or twice a year, obviously omitting these &quot;made-up&quot; categories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For someone starting out on a financial turn-around, I think including market-variable assets (like a house, a stock-bond portfolio, commodities) in a monthly net-worth calculation is going to be of limited utility.  If the purpose is to motivate and show progress toward financial stability, it makes more sense to keep track monthly of current assets and liabilities, possibly adding to the calculation as a current liability the annual amount of desired contribution to a retirement or long-term investment account and the annual goal of desired principal pay-down on a mortgage, shifting those to the current asset column as they are met.</p>
<p>That sounds confusing but here&#8217;s an example of what I mean:</p>
<p>Current assets:</p>
<p>Checking account<br />
Savings account<br />
Emergency fund<br />
Funded contribution to IRA year-to-date (YTD)<br />
YTD increase in home equity due to mortgage pay-down</p>
<p>Current liabilities:</p>
<p>Credit cards<br />
Student loans<br />
Car loan<br />
Yearly IRA contribution goal<br />
Yearly goal on mortgage pay-down</p>
<p>Say your goal is to contribute $5000 to an IRA this year.  The year would start with a $5000 liability and zero in the current asset funded IRA, and as you make a contribution, it would decrease your liability and increase your asset.</p>
<p>This would give you a much clearer picture of how well you&#8217;re doing in meeting your goals and improving your situation.  (And, by the way, I am aware that calling this a Net Worth calculation would be highly misleading in accounting terms.)</p>
<p>The full-blown net worth is probably only worth doing once or twice a year, obviously omitting these &#8220;made-up&#8221; categories.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@imogene: I enjoyed those quotes.  Thank you for sharing them.

In this case, though, there&#039;s really not much of a difference between the &quot;doer&quot; and the &quot;critic&quot; - we&#039;re all just babbling on the internet.  True, Trent has the burden, which the rest of us don&#039;t, of coming up with stuff to write about in the first place.  But he&#039;s also the only one here getting paid, so that seems fair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@imogene: I enjoyed those quotes.  Thank you for sharing them.</p>
<p>In this case, though, there&#8217;s really not much of a difference between the &#8220;doer&#8221; and the &#8220;critic&#8221; &#8211; we&#8217;re all just babbling on the internet.  True, Trent has the burden, which the rest of us don&#8217;t, of coming up with stuff to write about in the first place.  But he&#8217;s also the only one here getting paid, so that seems fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/01/09/keep-track-of-your-progress-8365/#comment-978107</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent - I have been using my net worth spreadsheet since August 2007 and it has been a great way to gauge if I&#039;m on task or not.  Thanks again for the great tutorial &amp; for revisiting the reasoning behind it today. :-)
I am at a point where a lot of my ups and downs are due to stock market (lots of my Roth IRA is in Total Stock &amp; Windsor II at Vanguard), but in general I like seeing the big picture with all the numbers in one place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent &#8211; I have been using my net worth spreadsheet since August 2007 and it has been a great way to gauge if I&#8217;m on task or not.  Thanks again for the great tutorial &amp; for revisiting the reasoning behind it today. :-)<br />
I am at a point where a lot of my ups and downs are due to stock market (lots of my Roth IRA is in Total Stock &amp; Windsor II at Vanguard), but in general I like seeing the big picture with all the numbers in one place.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/01/09/keep-track-of-your-progress-8365/#comment-978105</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Other Jonathan: First of all, I&#039;m not criticizing this post for not being beneficial to all people - and I&#039;m certainly not criticizing it for not being beneficial to me.  If that&#039;s what you think I was saying, maybe you should have held off on your oh-so-important comment a bit longer and read my comments a bit more closely.

As Riki said the other day, I&#039;m not here because Trent dispenses some kind of magical wisdom.  (And if that&#039;s why you&#039;re here, maybe you&#039;re the one who should move on, because there are so many better sources of wisdom out there.)  I&#039;m here because the comment threads often contain interesting exchanges of ideas, when people share their own experiences and advice that might be different from Trent&#039;s.

If you (or if anyone) want to criticize my comments the same way as I criticize Trent&#039;s posts, please do.  If I&#039;ve made a factual mistake, please correct it.  If I&#039;ve overstated an argument or overlooked something, point that out.  If I&#039;ve said something unintentionally offensive, let me know.  But if you don&#039;t have anything to add along any of those lines, what exactly are you hoping to accomplish by telling me to shut up?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Other Jonathan: First of all, I&#8217;m not criticizing this post for not being beneficial to all people &#8211; and I&#8217;m certainly not criticizing it for not being beneficial to me.  If that&#8217;s what you think I was saying, maybe you should have held off on your oh-so-important comment a bit longer and read my comments a bit more closely.</p>
<p>As Riki said the other day, I&#8217;m not here because Trent dispenses some kind of magical wisdom.  (And if that&#8217;s why you&#8217;re here, maybe you&#8217;re the one who should move on, because there are so many better sources of wisdom out there.)  I&#8217;m here because the comment threads often contain interesting exchanges of ideas, when people share their own experiences and advice that might be different from Trent&#8217;s.</p>
<p>If you (or if anyone) want to criticize my comments the same way as I criticize Trent&#8217;s posts, please do.  If I&#8217;ve made a factual mistake, please correct it.  If I&#8217;ve overstated an argument or overlooked something, point that out.  If I&#8217;ve said something unintentionally offensive, let me know.  But if you don&#8217;t have anything to add along any of those lines, what exactly are you hoping to accomplish by telling me to shut up?</p>
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		<title>By: Other Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Other Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Troy, yes, you&#039;re right when it comes to correcting mistakes (which Johanna does very well in the reader questions posts). It&#039;s the constant criticism of posts that are beneficial to many people seemingly because they aren&#039;t going to beneficial to all people that gets to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy, yes, you&#8217;re right when it comes to correcting mistakes (which Johanna does very well in the reader questions posts). It&#8217;s the constant criticism of posts that are beneficial to many people seemingly because they aren&#8217;t going to beneficial to all people that gets to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Squirrelers</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/01/09/keep-track-of-your-progress-8365/#comment-978080</link>
		<dc:creator>Squirrelers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s important to keep track of net worth. It&#039;s possible to do it too often, and be counterproductive in that way. But periodically checking net worth is kind of like a ball player pointing up at the scoreboard - it shows where things stand, regardless of effort or intended effort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s important to keep track of net worth. It&#8217;s possible to do it too often, and be counterproductive in that way. But periodically checking net worth is kind of like a ball player pointing up at the scoreboard &#8211; it shows where things stand, regardless of effort or intended effort.</p>
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		<title>By: imogene</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/01/09/keep-track-of-your-progress-8365/#comment-978073</link>
		<dc:creator>imogene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teddy Roosevelt said it best:

&quot;...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done.&quot; (1891) 

&quot;Criticism is necessary and useful; it is often indispensable; but it can never take the place of action, or be even a poor substitute for it. The function of the mere critic is of very subordinate usefulness. It is the doer of deeds who actually counts in the battle for life, and not the man who looks on and says how the fight ought to be fought, without himself sharing the stress and the danger.&quot; (1894)

Trent and Brittany, I appreciate the work you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy Roosevelt said it best:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done.&#8221; (1891) </p>
<p>&#8220;Criticism is necessary and useful; it is often indispensable; but it can never take the place of action, or be even a poor substitute for it. The function of the mere critic is of very subordinate usefulness. It is the doer of deeds who actually counts in the battle for life, and not the man who looks on and says how the fight ought to be fought, without himself sharing the stress and the danger.&#8221; (1894)</p>
<p>Trent and Brittany, I appreciate the work you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Johanna&#039;s defense, the same &#039;move on&#039; suggestion applies to both the comments, and those who disagree with said comments.

This is a professional blog.  Thousands of posts and milliuons of page views.

Criticism is both necessary and unfortunately required at times.

The little mistakes that keep being made get tiresome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Johanna&#8217;s defense, the same &#8216;move on&#8217; suggestion applies to both the comments, and those who disagree with said comments.</p>
<p>This is a professional blog.  Thousands of posts and milliuons of page views.</p>
<p>Criticism is both necessary and unfortunately required at times.</p>
<p>The little mistakes that keep being made get tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Other Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Other Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Johanna, recall that not all advice will work for everyone - obviously. Trent didn&#039;t say this was great for everyone, he said it helped him and that it&#039;s a good place to start - which for many people, it would be.

I have held off writing this forever, but your consistent negativity on just about every single post on this site is really annoying. If a suggestion doesn&#039;t work for you, fine. Move on, and let those who get value from the post enjoy it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johanna, recall that not all advice will work for everyone &#8211; obviously. Trent didn&#8217;t say this was great for everyone, he said it helped him and that it&#8217;s a good place to start &#8211; which for many people, it would be.</p>
<p>I have held off writing this forever, but your consistent negativity on just about every single post on this site is really annoying. If a suggestion doesn&#8217;t work for you, fine. Move on, and let those who get value from the post enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: LaDonna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/01/09/keep-track-of-your-progress-8365/#comment-978049</link>
		<dc:creator>LaDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the other hand, folks, it might show you that things aren&#039;t really as bad as you might think. At least that&#039;s how it worked for me. Of course, I used Mint.com&#039;s net worth feature, but same diff. When I got everything input, I was happily (or at least not badly) surprised to find my net worth was at least in the black, if not by much. I&#039;d thought for sure we were in the red. So that actually gave me hope.

To be fair, I certainly don&#039;t track it closely, so it wasn&#039;t a massive motivational tool for me. But if it works for others, cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, folks, it might show you that things aren&#8217;t really as bad as you might think. At least that&#8217;s how it worked for me. Of course, I used Mint.com&#8217;s net worth feature, but same diff. When I got everything input, I was happily (or at least not badly) surprised to find my net worth was at least in the black, if not by much. I&#8217;d thought for sure we were in the red. So that actually gave me hope.</p>
<p>To be fair, I certainly don&#8217;t track it closely, so it wasn&#8217;t a massive motivational tool for me. But if it works for others, cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@valleycat: To be fair, Trent does mention that this technique works less well when you have a lot of money invested in things like stocks.

But I think that if you have any money at all (even just a few hundred dollars) invested in stocks or other assets whose values fluctuate a lot, tracking your net worth too frequently can cause you to stress too much about short-term fluctuations in asset values, and can lead to bad investing decisions as a result.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@valleycat: To be fair, Trent does mention that this technique works less well when you have a lot of money invested in things like stocks.</p>
<p>But I think that if you have any money at all (even just a few hundred dollars) invested in stocks or other assets whose values fluctuate a lot, tracking your net worth too frequently can cause you to stress too much about short-term fluctuations in asset values, and can lead to bad investing decisions as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Using net worth as a financial gauge when you&#039;re just starting out and might have a huge debt burden (student loans, for example), is just depressing and disheartening. If you have no assets, what&#039;s the point? You already know you have debt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using net worth as a financial gauge when you&#8217;re just starting out and might have a huge debt burden (student loans, for example), is just depressing and disheartening. If you have no assets, what&#8217;s the point? You already know you have debt.</p>
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		<title>By: valleycat1</title>
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		<dc:creator>valleycat1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I don&#039;t like about using a net worth snapshot to check my progress short-term is that sometimes things happen to the value of my assets that&#039;s out of my control (housing bubble burst, stock market ups &amp; downs) that could result in a huge decline or increase in the bottom line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#8217;t like about using a net worth snapshot to check my progress short-term is that sometimes things happen to the value of my assets that&#8217;s out of my control (housing bubble burst, stock market ups &amp; downs) that could result in a huge decline or increase in the bottom line.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, the picture doesn&#039;t match the article.  The article is about keeping track of net worth, but the picture shows someone keeping track of expenses.

And I&#039;d think that for someone who&#039;s really just getting started, it would be better to set up a system where it&#039;s not possible to spend more than you earn, rather than relying on the motivating power of the despair you (might) feel when your net worth goes down.  Figure out how much you can afford to spend each month on non-fixed expenses, and once you&#039;ve spent that much, stop spending - making an exception only for true emergencies that threaten your health or safety.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, the picture doesn&#8217;t match the article.  The article is about keeping track of net worth, but the picture shows someone keeping track of expenses.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d think that for someone who&#8217;s really just getting started, it would be better to set up a system where it&#8217;s not possible to spend more than you earn, rather than relying on the motivating power of the despair you (might) feel when your net worth goes down.  Figure out how much you can afford to spend each month on non-fixed expenses, and once you&#8217;ve spent that much, stop spending &#8211; making an exception only for true emergencies that threaten your health or safety.</p>
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