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		<title>By: SLCCOM</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/09/reader-mailbag-time-conflict/#comment-982210</link>
		<dc:creator>SLCCOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q9, When you don&#039;t report your income, not only are the tax authorities going to be after you, which you will PROFOUNDLY regret, but your wife is cheating herself of the Social Security benefits she will eventually want. 

There aren&#039;t a lot of things stupider than evading taxes. Which reminds me -- I need to write to the IRS about somebody (else; not you) who is doing just that. Thanks for the heads up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q9, When you don&#8217;t report your income, not only are the tax authorities going to be after you, which you will PROFOUNDLY regret, but your wife is cheating herself of the Social Security benefits she will eventually want. </p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t a lot of things stupider than evading taxes. Which reminds me &#8212; I need to write to the IRS about somebody (else; not you) who is doing just that. Thanks for the heads up!</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q3: Yeah, there&#039;s really no classy way to ask for cash gifts.  Trent&#039;s suggestion to let your inner circle spread the word is probably the best way to go.  How much are you expecting to get, anyway?  Do you really think it would add up to enough for a house down payment?  I would suggest a registry on Target or Amazon.  I believe they both allow you to put gift cards on your registry, so perhaps this would encourage people to give you gift cards instead of stuff.  Obviously, you can&#039;t use gift cards towards a down payment, but you can use them to purchase other household necessities (like groceries and toiletries) and save the money you would have spent on that stuff.

Q4: Maybe it&#039;s just me, but it seems like Trent always gives the same non-answer to this type of question: &quot;It depends on what you&#039;re planning to do with it.&quot;  I think a lot of people ask this type of question because they have enough emergency fund money in savings and want some practical advice on how to start investing in stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc.  I hope some day Trent will consider writing a post on how to get started.  Every time I have tried to give advice on this type of things in the comments, I have gotten stuck in moderation for some reason, so I&#039;m not going to bother trying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q3: Yeah, there&#8217;s really no classy way to ask for cash gifts.  Trent&#8217;s suggestion to let your inner circle spread the word is probably the best way to go.  How much are you expecting to get, anyway?  Do you really think it would add up to enough for a house down payment?  I would suggest a registry on Target or Amazon.  I believe they both allow you to put gift cards on your registry, so perhaps this would encourage people to give you gift cards instead of stuff.  Obviously, you can&#8217;t use gift cards towards a down payment, but you can use them to purchase other household necessities (like groceries and toiletries) and save the money you would have spent on that stuff.</p>
<p>Q4: Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but it seems like Trent always gives the same non-answer to this type of question: &#8220;It depends on what you&#8217;re planning to do with it.&#8221;  I think a lot of people ask this type of question because they have enough emergency fund money in savings and want some practical advice on how to start investing in stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc.  I hope some day Trent will consider writing a post on how to get started.  Every time I have tried to give advice on this type of things in the comments, I have gotten stuck in moderation for some reason, so I&#8217;m not going to bother trying.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney20</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/09/reader-mailbag-time-conflict/#comment-982154</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin, I defer to Miss Manners on this who says: &quot;Getting married does not grant people license to distribute bills to those who are minding their business. A wedding invitation is merely an offer of hospitality. As such, it must be answered, one way or the other, and it should also prompt a letter wishing the couple happiness. There is nothing wrong with also sending a present, but that is certainly not required.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I defer to Miss Manners on this who says: &#8220;Getting married does not grant people license to distribute bills to those who are minding their business. A wedding invitation is merely an offer of hospitality. As such, it must be answered, one way or the other, and it should also prompt a letter wishing the couple happiness. There is nothing wrong with also sending a present, but that is certainly not required.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: getagrip</title>
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		<dc:creator>getagrip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q2  I echo jim&#039;s comment in #27 above and would also add that it&#039;s based on the general view of retirement in that you work into your sixties and then retire from full time work and live off your savings and investments.  It&#039;s also based on you getting 15-20% of your salary from social security.  It&#039;s not a bad goal to have when young because it gets you saving and thinking about the future so even if you don&#039;t follow a general path, at least it puts you in a position where you have options.  

One nice thing about saving any percentage is you get used to not living on that percentage, that&#039;s a part of what you won&#039;t need in retirement.  In other words, if you&#039;re saving 10% of your salary, you&#039;re only living on 90% so at worst that&#039;s what you would need going into retirement to maintain your standard of living.  Generally people need less than that because unless they&#039;ve really given in to lifestyle inflation they aren&#039;t saving for the kids college, aren&#039;t typically feeding the family and paying for all their care, aren&#039;t paying social security or medicare once retired, generally have paid the mortgage off and hopefully reduced debt, etc.  

With respect to what counts for that percentage, to me it depends.  If you have a defined benefit plan can you take money with you or roll it into something else if you quit?  If you can&#039;t maybe you shouldn&#039;t count it or at least not fully rely on it.  Do you get matching dollars from the company?  I tend to count that as extra though others might count it as part of the percentage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q2  I echo jim&#8217;s comment in #27 above and would also add that it&#8217;s based on the general view of retirement in that you work into your sixties and then retire from full time work and live off your savings and investments.  It&#8217;s also based on you getting 15-20% of your salary from social security.  It&#8217;s not a bad goal to have when young because it gets you saving and thinking about the future so even if you don&#8217;t follow a general path, at least it puts you in a position where you have options.  </p>
<p>One nice thing about saving any percentage is you get used to not living on that percentage, that&#8217;s a part of what you won&#8217;t need in retirement.  In other words, if you&#8217;re saving 10% of your salary, you&#8217;re only living on 90% so at worst that&#8217;s what you would need going into retirement to maintain your standard of living.  Generally people need less than that because unless they&#8217;ve really given in to lifestyle inflation they aren&#8217;t saving for the kids college, aren&#8217;t typically feeding the family and paying for all their care, aren&#8217;t paying social security or medicare once retired, generally have paid the mortgage off and hopefully reduced debt, etc.  </p>
<p>With respect to what counts for that percentage, to me it depends.  If you have a defined benefit plan can you take money with you or roll it into something else if you quit?  If you can&#8217;t maybe you shouldn&#8217;t count it or at least not fully rely on it.  Do you get matching dollars from the company?  I tend to count that as extra though others might count it as part of the percentage.</p>
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		<title>By: Riki</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/09/reader-mailbag-time-conflict/#comment-982124</link>
		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a great website about etiquette:  search for etiquette hell and you&#039;ll find it.

She addresses wedding etiquette very well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a great website about etiquette:  search for etiquette hell and you&#8217;ll find it.</p>
<p>She addresses wedding etiquette very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/09/reader-mailbag-time-conflict/#comment-982123</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin, you do realize that traditions and cultures aren&#039;t the same everywhere, right?  And that even within a culture, people can have  differing opinions of how things work?  And even more than that, that things can change?  Stunning, I know, but it&#039;s true.

And yeah, I know you didn&#039;t make the guideline up because, as I said in my comment, I&#039;ve heard it before.  It seems common in certain social groups (though definitely not the one I grew up in, so let&#039;s not pretend this is universal).  I still think it&#039;s appalling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, you do realize that traditions and cultures aren&#8217;t the same everywhere, right?  And that even within a culture, people can have  differing opinions of how things work?  And even more than that, that things can change?  Stunning, I know, but it&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>And yeah, I know you didn&#8217;t make the guideline up because, as I said in my comment, I&#8217;ve heard it before.  It seems common in certain social groups (though definitely not the one I grew up in, so let&#8217;s not pretend this is universal).  I still think it&#8217;s appalling.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Katie and Courtney20:

Don&#039;t shoot the messenger.  I didn&#039;t make this up, the &quot;gift/reception meal&quot; guideline is a well-established tradition.  I didn&#039;t say you had to like it (I didn&#039;t even say *I* liked it) - I just said that&#039;s the ettiquette.  How you think things &quot;should&quot; work is utterly irrelevant to how the tradition has conditioned people to &quot;expect&quot; it to work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Katie and Courtney20:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t shoot the messenger.  I didn&#8217;t make this up, the &#8220;gift/reception meal&#8221; guideline is a well-established tradition.  I didn&#8217;t say you had to like it (I didn&#8217;t even say *I* liked it) &#8211; I just said that&#8217;s the ettiquette.  How you think things &#8220;should&#8221; work is utterly irrelevant to how the tradition has conditioned people to &#8220;expect&#8221; it to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Raya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Raya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t say that letting people know you prefer money instead of gifts is bad, or not classy, or whatever. I think it&#039;s very easy to understand why the family-to-be would prefer money. I don&#039;t see why the guest invited would feel offended, I mean you&#039;re spending money on a gift anyway - so what does it matter if you give the cash to the store or to the couple? 

Me, personally, whenever I can I prefer to give money. You can&#039;t go wrong with that. And you can always ad a token, something really small but sentimental, to the cash-gift.

That being said, I think Trent&#039;s advice with the inner circle and all is probably the most tactful way to do this if the couple is sensitive about asking for money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that letting people know you prefer money instead of gifts is bad, or not classy, or whatever. I think it&#8217;s very easy to understand why the family-to-be would prefer money. I don&#8217;t see why the guest invited would feel offended, I mean you&#8217;re spending money on a gift anyway &#8211; so what does it matter if you give the cash to the store or to the couple? </p>
<p>Me, personally, whenever I can I prefer to give money. You can&#8217;t go wrong with that. And you can always ad a token, something really small but sentimental, to the cash-gift.</p>
<p>That being said, I think Trent&#8217;s advice with the inner circle and all is probably the most tactful way to do this if the couple is sensitive about asking for money.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/09/reader-mailbag-time-conflict/#comment-982096</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your best bet is that either you or the bride have European ancestry - Polish, Greek, Turkish...

In the wedding traditions of those countries, it is customary for guests to pin hard cash (or the equivalent thereof) to the bride&#039;s dress in the course of one of the dances following the ceremony. And quite right too, I thought to myself when as best man at my Turkish friend&#039;s wedding I watched his wife collect almost as much money on her dress as that dress had cost in the first place, which was almost enough money to buy a small flat in North London or a small street in North Carolina.

Let&#039;s face it - you and I are hopeless at buying suitable gifts for people even (or especially) people we love. Every Christmas, for example, this fact oppresses us for so long that the term &quot;festive season&quot; becomes a hideous joke.

As I and my siblings grow older and more cantankerous, becoming grandfathers and grandmothers and great-aunts and great-uncles of ever-more-sophisticated whatsits and great-whatsits, we adopt this rule. Anyone with ostensibly fewer wrinkles than us gets the folding stuff as a gift; anyone with the same number of wrinkles as us is allowed to give us back what we gave them last year once, but if they do it twice (and we remember) they pay a forfeit.

There can be no more useful nor appropriate gift for a pair of newly-weds than the folding stuff. I suspect that only the industry that supports wedding registers is actively opposed to this premise. Though I suppose also that there may be some newly-weds who would prefer that I gave them a $50 wombat-depoucher than a $50 bill. By the time they have opened the third wombat-depoucher, they may conclude as I do that there comes a point at which credulity must make a stand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your best bet is that either you or the bride have European ancestry &#8211; Polish, Greek, Turkish&#8230;</p>
<p>In the wedding traditions of those countries, it is customary for guests to pin hard cash (or the equivalent thereof) to the bride&#8217;s dress in the course of one of the dances following the ceremony. And quite right too, I thought to myself when as best man at my Turkish friend&#8217;s wedding I watched his wife collect almost as much money on her dress as that dress had cost in the first place, which was almost enough money to buy a small flat in North London or a small street in North Carolina.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it &#8211; you and I are hopeless at buying suitable gifts for people even (or especially) people we love. Every Christmas, for example, this fact oppresses us for so long that the term &#8220;festive season&#8221; becomes a hideous joke.</p>
<p>As I and my siblings grow older and more cantankerous, becoming grandfathers and grandmothers and great-aunts and great-uncles of ever-more-sophisticated whatsits and great-whatsits, we adopt this rule. Anyone with ostensibly fewer wrinkles than us gets the folding stuff as a gift; anyone with the same number of wrinkles as us is allowed to give us back what we gave them last year once, but if they do it twice (and we remember) they pay a forfeit.</p>
<p>There can be no more useful nor appropriate gift for a pair of newly-weds than the folding stuff. I suspect that only the industry that supports wedding registers is actively opposed to this premise. Though I suppose also that there may be some newly-weds who would prefer that I gave them a $50 wombat-depoucher than a $50 bill. By the time they have opened the third wombat-depoucher, they may conclude as I do that there comes a point at which credulity must make a stand.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its never come across to me as any kind of &quot;BUY ME STUFF&quot; entitled, spoiled &quot;demand&quot;.    Why would people perceive it that way?
How is telling people by word of mouth (or whatever) that a couple has registered at Macy&#039;s so much better than putting it in print?

Its just simple and practical to include info on the registry in the invitation as far as I&#039;m concerned.  Its no more demanding than the invitation itself as far as I&#039;m concerned.  The invitiation is saying they want me to spend a few hours of my weekend and possibly drive or fly half way across the country.   How is being asked to fly halfway across the country OK, but them also mentioning that a toaster oven from Macy&#039;s would make a good gift a horrible taboo injustice?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its never come across to me as any kind of &#8220;BUY ME STUFF&#8221; entitled, spoiled &#8220;demand&#8221;.    Why would people perceive it that way?<br />
How is telling people by word of mouth (or whatever) that a couple has registered at Macy&#8217;s so much better than putting it in print?</p>
<p>Its just simple and practical to include info on the registry in the invitation as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  Its no more demanding than the invitation itself as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  The invitiation is saying they want me to spend a few hours of my weekend and possibly drive or fly half way across the country.   How is being asked to fly halfway across the country OK, but them also mentioning that a toaster oven from Macy&#8217;s would make a good gift a horrible taboo injustice?</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the difference is between letting people know you have a registry or prefer cash or whatever, which is helpful, and putting it right in your invitation, which comes off as &quot;come to my wedding - and BUY ME STUFF!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the difference is between letting people know you have a registry or prefer cash or whatever, which is helpful, and putting it right in your invitation, which comes off as &#8220;come to my wedding &#8211; and BUY ME STUFF!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SwingCheese</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/09/reader-mailbag-time-conflict/#comment-982082</link>
		<dc:creator>SwingCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, I&#039;ve noticed that people frequently write out links in their comments - that explains why. As for the other, it is my opinion that including a registry on your invitation or as part of the card is the same thing as asking for a gift. If someone approaches you and asks if you&#039;re registered somewhere, then you are free to tell them whatever you want for a gift. (If you want money, you can tell them that, too, though I personally think that asking for money is tacky.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I&#8217;ve noticed that people frequently write out links in their comments &#8211; that explains why. As for the other, it is my opinion that including a registry on your invitation or as part of the card is the same thing as asking for a gift. If someone approaches you and asks if you&#8217;re registered somewhere, then you are free to tell them whatever you want for a gift. (If you want money, you can tell them that, too, though I personally think that asking for money is tacky.)</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SwingCheese.    Nobody is saying that someone should demand or expect gifts.   Its a matter of telling people your preference for the nature of gifts ... IF and only IF the people want to give gifts in the first place.  I take it for granted that gifts are optional and at the discretion of the giver.  I thought that was a given? 
Simply pointing people to a registry is not saying you expect to get a gift.   
If you don&#039;t provide a registry then people will pester you to let them know what you want for gifts.  Personally I appreciate a registry.   I also have absolutely no problem with someone saying they&#039;d really prefer cash over gifts.   None of this is saying that anyone&#039;s demanding gifts or acting entitled to them.


Side note : comments here are routinely moderated for no reason whatsoever. Its not about cursing, its just picky / flakey software that doesn&#039;t always work well and randomly decides something is objectionable that is actually totally harmless.   If you put any links in the comments then that would also likely trigger moderation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SwingCheese.    Nobody is saying that someone should demand or expect gifts.   Its a matter of telling people your preference for the nature of gifts &#8230; IF and only IF the people want to give gifts in the first place.  I take it for granted that gifts are optional and at the discretion of the giver.  I thought that was a given?<br />
Simply pointing people to a registry is not saying you expect to get a gift.<br />
If you don&#8217;t provide a registry then people will pester you to let them know what you want for gifts.  Personally I appreciate a registry.   I also have absolutely no problem with someone saying they&#8217;d really prefer cash over gifts.   None of this is saying that anyone&#8217;s demanding gifts or acting entitled to them.</p>
<p>Side note : comments here are routinely moderated for no reason whatsoever. Its not about cursing, its just picky / flakey software that doesn&#8217;t always work well and randomly decides something is objectionable that is actually totally harmless.   If you put any links in the comments then that would also likely trigger moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: SwingCheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwingCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me rephrase: I feel that asking for either money or gifts for your wedding comes off as spoiled and immature. I don&#039;t feel that way about &quot;everything&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me rephrase: I feel that asking for either money or gifts for your wedding comes off as spoiled and immature. I don&#8217;t feel that way about &#8220;everything&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: SwingCheese</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/09/reader-mailbag-time-conflict/#comment-982067</link>
		<dc:creator>SwingCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AnnJo, et al: I&#039;ve never had a comment go into moderation before, and as I didn&#039;t use profanity, I&#039;m not sure why this one did. I did tell the writer of question 3 that asking for money makes them sound like a spoiled, entitled, immature person. But I feel that way about everything. Weddings are not *supposed* to be for gifts. They&#039;re *supposed* to be about celebrating the young couple on the beginning of their life together. Now, most people choose to give gifts, but that is their choice. It should not be voiced as an expectation by the couple. That is...well, it&#039;s spoiled and immature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AnnJo, et al: I&#8217;ve never had a comment go into moderation before, and as I didn&#8217;t use profanity, I&#8217;m not sure why this one did. I did tell the writer of question 3 that asking for money makes them sound like a spoiled, entitled, immature person. But I feel that way about everything. Weddings are not *supposed* to be for gifts. They&#8217;re *supposed* to be about celebrating the young couple on the beginning of their life together. Now, most people choose to give gifts, but that is their choice. It should not be voiced as an expectation by the couple. That is&#8230;well, it&#8217;s spoiled and immature.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t tend to go for things which have no reason other than an outdated &#039;etiquette&#039; claim, but do you really see no validity in not demanding gifts?
I certainly see no problem with having a registry &#039;if you want to get a gift, here are some things we would like&#039;, and mentioning it on a website or something.
But when I receive an invitation that says (in some cutesy rhyme or whatever) &quot;we&#039;d really like to receive some cash!&quot; or has a bunch of registry listings, it definitely comes off as a &quot;BUY ME STUFF!!!&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t tend to go for things which have no reason other than an outdated &#8216;etiquette&#8217; claim, but do you really see no validity in not demanding gifts?<br />
I certainly see no problem with having a registry &#8216;if you want to get a gift, here are some things we would like&#8217;, and mentioning it on a website or something.<br />
But when I receive an invitation that says (in some cutesy rhyme or whatever) &#8220;we&#8217;d really like to receive some cash!&#8221; or has a bunch of registry listings, it definitely comes off as a &#8220;BUY ME STUFF!!!&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure different people will have different experiences, but at my wedding most people gave gifts (at my wife&#039;s shower) AND cash (in the envelope at the wedding).

Not everyone gave the $100 per person in cash that you&#039;re &quot;supposed&quot; to, but most did and some even gave more.

A few people brought gifts to the ceremony, but it was very few.

And I&#039;ve always understood that the cash at the ceremony was, in theory, supposed to pay for your plate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure different people will have different experiences, but at my wedding most people gave gifts (at my wife&#8217;s shower) AND cash (in the envelope at the wedding).</p>
<p>Not everyone gave the $100 per person in cash that you&#8217;re &#8220;supposed&#8221; to, but most did and some even gave more.</p>
<p>A few people brought gifts to the ceremony, but it was very few.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve always understood that the cash at the ceremony was, in theory, supposed to pay for your plate.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/09/reader-mailbag-time-conflict/#comment-982043</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Steve #36 comments about Roth vs 529 on Q6.  However one point is that 529&#039;s often have extra tax benefits due to state level tax deductions or credits.   So a 529 can have extra benefit because of that.  But it varies state to state and some / many 529&#039;s have no special state level tax treatment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Steve #36 comments about Roth vs 529 on Q6.  However one point is that 529&#8242;s often have extra tax benefits due to state level tax deductions or credits.   So a 529 can have extra benefit because of that.  But it varies state to state and some / many 529&#8242;s have no special state level tax treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baley said : &quot;The only reason it’s wrong is because of etiquette. And that kind of irritates me. Some etiquette rules are silly and only inconvenience everybody.&quot;

Exactly.

People should be able to do their own wedding the way they want without being judged failures because they broke one of the tons of different etiquette rules bout the &#039;proper&#039; way to do things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baley said : &#8220;The only reason it’s wrong is because of etiquette. And that kind of irritates me. Some etiquette rules are silly and only inconvenience everybody.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>People should be able to do their own wedding the way they want without being judged failures because they broke one of the tons of different etiquette rules bout the &#8216;proper&#8217; way to do things.</p>
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