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	<title>Comments on: Chores, Allowance, and &#8220;Above and Beyond&#8221; Tasks</title>
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		<title>By: Laura C</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/21/chores-allowance-and-above-and-beyond-tasks/#comment-983445</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like that you did not reward your son for helping shovel the neighbor&#039;s driveway.  First, praise from a parent goes a long way.  He won&#039;t forget that you thought his little hands did a great job.  And second, your son learned the meaning of charity that is not associated with giving away money or property, but giving away time.  Doing good deeds for others, helping where none is expected, looking out for the other people in the world--these are all charitable endeavors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that you did not reward your son for helping shovel the neighbor&#8217;s driveway.  First, praise from a parent goes a long way.  He won&#8217;t forget that you thought his little hands did a great job.  And second, your son learned the meaning of charity that is not associated with giving away money or property, but giving away time.  Doing good deeds for others, helping where none is expected, looking out for the other people in the world&#8211;these are all charitable endeavors.</p>
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		<title>By: HW</title>
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		<dc:creator>HW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I think you have some great ideas here, I think you are missing teaching your children another valuable lesson: the harder you work, the more money you get.  After all, your income isn&#039;t handed to you on a silver platter.  I think paying for some of the extra above-and-beyond chores is a good way to teach this, while maintaining all the things you are striving for with your regular allowance and chore policies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think you have some great ideas here, I think you are missing teaching your children another valuable lesson: the harder you work, the more money you get.  After all, your income isn&#8217;t handed to you on a silver platter.  I think paying for some of the extra above-and-beyond chores is a good way to teach this, while maintaining all the things you are striving for with your regular allowance and chore policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Slccom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slccom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A most entertaining and enlightening discussion! Kudos to all. 

If anyone has a teenager who wants to help out, please send her/him my way!

Sigh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A most entertaining and enlightening discussion! Kudos to all. </p>
<p>If anyone has a teenager who wants to help out, please send her/him my way!</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maria, most of the things you suggest would have been either impossible or ridiculously unprofitable for a teenager with no car in my semi-rural neighborhood (with no sidewalks, no foot traffic and very little car traffic, and almost nothing within walking or biking distance).  And the rest fall into the category of things that were Just Not Done.

Tutoring was done - at school, for free - as part of my responsibility for being a smartypants braniac.  Chores were done - at home, for free - as part of my responsibility for being part of the family.  (I think I was aware of the concept of paying other people to do your household chores, but it was something that only rich people did.)  Newspapers were delivered by adults in cars.  I didn&#039;t know how to do most &quot;odd jobs.&quot;  Selling things door to door - to the few neighbors whose houses I could walk to - was for Girl Scout cookies and school fundraisers, and anything else was verboten.  Selling things on the street...well, who was I going to sell to?  The one person who drives past every 20 minutes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria, most of the things you suggest would have been either impossible or ridiculously unprofitable for a teenager with no car in my semi-rural neighborhood (with no sidewalks, no foot traffic and very little car traffic, and almost nothing within walking or biking distance).  And the rest fall into the category of things that were Just Not Done.</p>
<p>Tutoring was done &#8211; at school, for free &#8211; as part of my responsibility for being a smartypants braniac.  Chores were done &#8211; at home, for free &#8211; as part of my responsibility for being part of the family.  (I think I was aware of the concept of paying other people to do your household chores, but it was something that only rich people did.)  Newspapers were delivered by adults in cars.  I didn&#8217;t know how to do most &#8220;odd jobs.&#8221;  Selling things door to door &#8211; to the few neighbors whose houses I could walk to &#8211; was for Girl Scout cookies and school fundraisers, and anything else was verboten.  Selling things on the street&#8230;well, who was I going to sell to?  The one person who drives past every 20 minutes?</p>
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		<title>By: teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not pay an allowance and my children are expected to do chores but I do have an extensive list of extra work that can be done for cash.  This list took awhile to put together and is very thoughtout with jobs that older and younger kids can do, with no regards for what girls or boys &quot;jobs&quot; are.  I have 5 children, 4 girls and 1 boy ages 2-13 and they are free to do any of these things at any time.  I am very happy to pay my 11 year old $5 to clean up the dog yard and my 5 year old $0.50 to clean the mirrors in the house.  They of course have tried to do the same work more than once in a day to earn even more money but they know I won&#039;t allow it and use common sense.  This system makes my life so much easier and even though I have never specifically said that they have to use their own money for purchases they get a lot of pride out of using their own money, plus they take better care of the things they buy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not pay an allowance and my children are expected to do chores but I do have an extensive list of extra work that can be done for cash.  This list took awhile to put together and is very thoughtout with jobs that older and younger kids can do, with no regards for what girls or boys &#8220;jobs&#8221; are.  I have 5 children, 4 girls and 1 boy ages 2-13 and they are free to do any of these things at any time.  I am very happy to pay my 11 year old $5 to clean up the dog yard and my 5 year old $0.50 to clean the mirrors in the house.  They of course have tried to do the same work more than once in a day to earn even more money but they know I won&#8217;t allow it and use common sense.  This system makes my life so much easier and even though I have never specifically said that they have to use their own money for purchases they get a lot of pride out of using their own money, plus they take better care of the things they buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least 14 jobs a 14-15 year old can do: Are you try to tell me at 15 you could not think of any of these options or that your parents could not have suggested them to you? 
Sell Ice Cream,Sell something homemade (cookies, cakes, paintings),Do chores for old people (groceries or vacuuming),Become someones tutor (math, science, reading, spelling), Deliver newspapers, Make/sell cold drinks, Clean peoples homes or Wash Windows,Mail Pick-Up Service: When people travel, people need someone to pick up their mail and newspapers,Pet Sitter/Doggy walking, Household chores,Iron clothes,Ask all neighbors if they need any hired help for odd jobs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least 14 jobs a 14-15 year old can do: Are you try to tell me at 15 you could not think of any of these options or that your parents could not have suggested them to you?<br />
Sell Ice Cream,Sell something homemade (cookies, cakes, paintings),Do chores for old people (groceries or vacuuming),Become someones tutor (math, science, reading, spelling), Deliver newspapers, Make/sell cold drinks, Clean peoples homes or Wash Windows,Mail Pick-Up Service: When people travel, people need someone to pick up their mail and newspapers,Pet Sitter/Doggy walking, Household chores,Iron clothes,Ask all neighbors if they need any hired help for odd jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My husband and I used to teasingly argue about who was lucky enough to go outside and shovel 2 feet of snow as compared to watching two toddlers and doing &quot;inside&quot; chores in the nice, warm house. Believe me, the winner got to go outside.  Raising kids and doing household chores, a.k.a., &quot;woman&#039;s work&quot;, is much harder than physical work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I used to teasingly argue about who was lucky enough to go outside and shovel 2 feet of snow as compared to watching two toddlers and doing &#8220;inside&#8221; chores in the nice, warm house. Believe me, the winner got to go outside.  Raising kids and doing household chores, a.k.a., &#8220;woman&#8217;s work&#8221;, is much harder than physical work.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Children are not born with an innate knowledge of what things they can do to earn money.  It&#039;s up to the adults in their lives to teach them these things.

Or maybe it&#039;s just &quot;losers&quot; like me who need to be taught, eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Children are not born with an innate knowledge of what things they can do to earn money.  It&#8217;s up to the adults in their lives to teach them these things.</p>
<p>Or maybe it&#8217;s just &#8220;losers&#8221; like me who need to be taught, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[89 johanna
What you should have learned is that your expectations of earning enough money to go to camp was either too high with your time frame and skill set or you should have looked for work that was more desirable to you and worth your time to pursue every single Saturday night. Babysitting is not the only option to a 14-15 year old.
Or maybe camp truly wasn&#039;t worth any type of work EVERY SINGLE SATURDAY NIGHT.
Giving up is for losers.Even a 14-15 year old is capable of adjusting to solve a problem or create a better situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>89 johanna<br />
What you should have learned is that your expectations of earning enough money to go to camp was either too high with your time frame and skill set or you should have looked for work that was more desirable to you and worth your time to pursue every single Saturday night. Babysitting is not the only option to a 14-15 year old.<br />
Or maybe camp truly wasn&#8217;t worth any type of work EVERY SINGLE SATURDAY NIGHT.<br />
Giving up is for losers.Even a 14-15 year old is capable of adjusting to solve a problem or create a better situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I babysat because it seemed grown-up and I was raised that you shouldn&#039;t turn down work (and actually, I more or less enjoyed it most of the time).  But the pay was pretty ridiculous - often I&#039;d get $1.50/hr in the &#039;90s.  Ludicrous.

I understand that it tends to be better paid now in large part because it&#039;s no longer considered acceptable to have 12-year-olds watch your kids, so people are forced to hire older teens who have other options to earn money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I babysat because it seemed grown-up and I was raised that you shouldn&#8217;t turn down work (and actually, I more or less enjoyed it most of the time).  But the pay was pretty ridiculous &#8211; often I&#8217;d get $1.50/hr in the &#8217;90s.  Ludicrous.</p>
<p>I understand that it tends to be better paid now in large part because it&#8217;s no longer considered acceptable to have 12-year-olds watch your kids, so people are forced to hire older teens who have other options to earn money.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/21/chores-allowance-and-above-and-beyond-tasks/#comment-983397</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Maria: &quot;If babysitting was soooo underpaid way are so many teenagers begging to provide this service??&quot;

In my case, it was because it appeared to be the only opportunity that was available to me to earn extra money (this was at age 14-15, before I could drive).  I wanted the money because there was a summer camp I wanted to go to, and my parents said I could go if I paid for it myself.

But it soon became clear to me that chasing after hyperactive kids for four hours on a Saturday night, and walking away with $12, was NOT worth it.  (And I wasn&#039;t even changing any diapers!)  And even if I did this every single Saturday night for the whole year, I still wasn&#039;t going to have enough money to go to camp.  So I gave up.

The lesson I learned was that my time and skills were worth too little for me to bother working.  Is that a good lesson to teach a teenager?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Maria: &#8220;If babysitting was soooo underpaid way are so many teenagers begging to provide this service??&#8221;</p>
<p>In my case, it was because it appeared to be the only opportunity that was available to me to earn extra money (this was at age 14-15, before I could drive).  I wanted the money because there was a summer camp I wanted to go to, and my parents said I could go if I paid for it myself.</p>
<p>But it soon became clear to me that chasing after hyperactive kids for four hours on a Saturday night, and walking away with $12, was NOT worth it.  (And I wasn&#8217;t even changing any diapers!)  And even if I did this every single Saturday night for the whole year, I still wasn&#8217;t going to have enough money to go to camp.  So I gave up.</p>
<p>The lesson I learned was that my time and skills were worth too little for me to bother working.  Is that a good lesson to teach a teenager?</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#81 Jim..&quot;I will say that babysitting is unfairly paid versus lawn mowing. I totally agree on that and its likely a gender bias issue to some extent.&quot;

I have two grown very successful children that I LOVE ( and raised properly), however I sometimes feel like I had them because that is what society expected, not because &quot;I had  a yearning in my female sole to reproduce and If I didn&#039;t I would not feel complete&quot; kind of thing. In hind site I do believe I could have had a complete, fulfilling and wonderful life if I did not have children.
Anyway, I would have to say that if someone offered me $20 bucks to babysit for the evening or cut their (average size,subdivision!) lawn, I would be happier cutting the lawn even though it is more physical work. If babysitting was soooo underpaid way are so many teenagers begging to provide this service?? Have you ever tried to get a teenager to do something they didn&#039;t want to do..even for ALOT money?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81 Jim..&#8221;I will say that babysitting is unfairly paid versus lawn mowing. I totally agree on that and its likely a gender bias issue to some extent.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have two grown very successful children that I LOVE ( and raised properly), however I sometimes feel like I had them because that is what society expected, not because &#8220;I had  a yearning in my female sole to reproduce and If I didn&#8217;t I would not feel complete&#8221; kind of thing. In hind site I do believe I could have had a complete, fulfilling and wonderful life if I did not have children.<br />
Anyway, I would have to say that if someone offered me $20 bucks to babysit for the evening or cut their (average size,subdivision!) lawn, I would be happier cutting the lawn even though it is more physical work. If babysitting was soooo underpaid way are so many teenagers begging to provide this service?? Have you ever tried to get a teenager to do something they didn&#8217;t want to do..even for ALOT money?</p>
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		<title>By: SwingCheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwingCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that Trent has outlined an interesting system in regards to allowances. 

And shoveling snow is not that hard. I do it from time to time, with a shovel (no snow blower here), and although it is physically demanding, provided that you dress appropriately and use your tools appropriately, it is not. that. bad. More physically demanding than folding one load of laundry? Absolutely. But I think it is perceived as being more demanding than it really is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Trent has outlined an interesting system in regards to allowances. </p>
<p>And shoveling snow is not that hard. I do it from time to time, with a shovel (no snow blower here), and although it is physically demanding, provided that you dress appropriately and use your tools appropriately, it is not. that. bad. More physically demanding than folding one load of laundry? Absolutely. But I think it is perceived as being more demanding than it really is.</p>
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		<title>By: DOT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DOT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My thought on the folding laundry/ fence repair for one hour of time ...
I would choose the fence repair because to ME it is a job I am physically capable of doing and is more rewarding to me. However, the Mennonite stay at home, home schooling mother that lives down the street proclaims that she LOVES folding laundry, it makes her feel needed and loves the smell and feel of clean clothes... I think she is nuts.. but to each his own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thought on the folding laundry/ fence repair for one hour of time &#8230;<br />
I would choose the fence repair because to ME it is a job I am physically capable of doing and is more rewarding to me. However, the Mennonite stay at home, home schooling mother that lives down the street proclaims that she LOVES folding laundry, it makes her feel needed and loves the smell and feel of clean clothes&#8230; I think she is nuts.. but to each his own.</p>
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		<title>By: DOT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DOT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#28 Johanna

&quot;Do you really think that men’s overall share of household chores has traditionally been as demanding as women’s share?&quot;
In my life experience I would say they are equal. I also actively engaged in finding a husband/mate who had values the same as mine...We are considered equals and that I would not be expected to do laundry, cook, clean, wash dishes just because I have boobs.
HOwever, I do know ALOT of women who have a passion to do just that.. 100% of the laundry, ironing, cook, clean, wash dishes, raise kids while the husband is employed outside of the house.
In this day and age in the United States I do not think any women is forced to provide these household chores. If they do find themselves in a situation were there husband/mate is demanding them to provide these services when they do not wish too they have a choice to say no and move on to an environment that is more compatible to there desires.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28 Johanna</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you really think that men’s overall share of household chores has traditionally been as demanding as women’s share?&#8221;<br />
In my life experience I would say they are equal. I also actively engaged in finding a husband/mate who had values the same as mine&#8230;We are considered equals and that I would not be expected to do laundry, cook, clean, wash dishes just because I have boobs.<br />
HOwever, I do know ALOT of women who have a passion to do just that.. 100% of the laundry, ironing, cook, clean, wash dishes, raise kids while the husband is employed outside of the house.<br />
In this day and age in the United States I do not think any women is forced to provide these household chores. If they do find themselves in a situation were there husband/mate is demanding them to provide these services when they do not wish too they have a choice to say no and move on to an environment that is more compatible to there desires.</p>
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		<title>By: goldsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>goldsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have children, but overall, the system you describe makes sense to me.  That said, it seems you raised a thoughtful kid and you can be proud of your parenting.  My impulse would be to give him a small, non-money treat for thinking of the neighbour - a recognition of his kindness and consideration.  I don&#039;t think I ever considered the neighbours in anything when I was six years old.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have children, but overall, the system you describe makes sense to me.  That said, it seems you raised a thoughtful kid and you can be proud of your parenting.  My impulse would be to give him a small, non-money treat for thinking of the neighbour &#8211; a recognition of his kindness and consideration.  I don&#8217;t think I ever considered the neighbours in anything when I was six years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this post goes to show that everyone thinks they&#039;re an expert at raising kids.  And I think today&#039;s society is proof that they&#039;re not :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this post goes to show that everyone thinks they&#8217;re an expert at raising kids.  And I think today&#8217;s society is proof that they&#8217;re not :)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/21/chores-allowance-and-above-and-beyond-tasks/#comment-983372</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good maid and a good handyman cost about the same around here, so I don&#039;t know what you all are talking about. Indoor and outdoor maintenance chores are about equal in difficulty and worth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good maid and a good handyman cost about the same around here, so I don&#8217;t know what you all are talking about. Indoor and outdoor maintenance chores are about equal in difficulty and worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill at FamZoo</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/21/chores-allowance-and-above-and-beyond-tasks/#comment-983370</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill at FamZoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post and some great comments (err, at least I enjoyed the more on-topic ones earlier on...)

I think the key thing is that you have a thoughtful, consistent system that fits with your family&#039;s values and that you take the time to communicate your rationale to your kids.

We use a hybrid model - modest regular allowances, expected unpaid chores, and some occasional paid &quot;extra jobs&quot; for unusual stuff. We do ding the kids&#039; accounts though when they blow off expected chores. I don&#039;t think that doing so &quot;deprives them of the opportunity to learn money management&quot; - they simply reach their various savings goals more slowly as a result - a lesson my wife and I are OK with. But, again, I think the most important thing is that the system matches your family&#039;s unique values and financial situation.

Thanks for the thoughtful post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and some great comments (err, at least I enjoyed the more on-topic ones earlier on&#8230;)</p>
<p>I think the key thing is that you have a thoughtful, consistent system that fits with your family&#8217;s values and that you take the time to communicate your rationale to your kids.</p>
<p>We use a hybrid model &#8211; modest regular allowances, expected unpaid chores, and some occasional paid &#8220;extra jobs&#8221; for unusual stuff. We do ding the kids&#8217; accounts though when they blow off expected chores. I don&#8217;t think that doing so &#8220;deprives them of the opportunity to learn money management&#8221; &#8211; they simply reach their various savings goals more slowly as a result &#8211; a lesson my wife and I are OK with. But, again, I think the most important thing is that the system matches your family&#8217;s unique values and financial situation.</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughtful post.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/02/21/chores-allowance-and-above-and-beyond-tasks/#comment-983368</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some jobs are paid more because of the nature of the job.  Shoveling snow is paid more because its physically demanding and freezing cold outside.  If you all think that folding clothes and snow shoveling should be equal pay then I would respectfully volunteer to do the folding inside and you can get teh same pay to shovel snow in the freezing cold.   Its not always about men being put above women.  Sometimes its cause the job sucks a lot more and thats why people pay more to do it.  

Another example is how Elyn said : &quot;), cleaning the neighbor’s bathrooms weekly (this was by far the highest paying job, by the way&quot;   Cleaning bathrooms is probably going to fall into the traditionally female jobs right?   Yet its &quot;by far the highest paying&quot; in Elyn&#039;s experience.  

I will say that babysitting is unfairly paid versus lawn mowing.  I totally agree on that and its likely a gender bias issue to some extent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some jobs are paid more because of the nature of the job.  Shoveling snow is paid more because its physically demanding and freezing cold outside.  If you all think that folding clothes and snow shoveling should be equal pay then I would respectfully volunteer to do the folding inside and you can get teh same pay to shovel snow in the freezing cold.   Its not always about men being put above women.  Sometimes its cause the job sucks a lot more and thats why people pay more to do it.  </p>
<p>Another example is how Elyn said : &#8220;), cleaning the neighbor’s bathrooms weekly (this was by far the highest paying job, by the way&#8221;   Cleaning bathrooms is probably going to fall into the traditionally female jobs right?   Yet its &#8220;by far the highest paying&#8221; in Elyn&#8217;s experience.  </p>
<p>I will say that babysitting is unfairly paid versus lawn mowing.  I totally agree on that and its likely a gender bias issue to some extent.</p>
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