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	<title>Comments on: Breaking Through the Frustration Barrier</title>
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		<title>By: Kacie</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985458</link>
		<dc:creator>Kacie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#20 -- it was way easier for me to stay motivated in paying off debt than it was for me to stay the course building up savings. So backward! But that&#039;s how it was. I had to automate things more so I&#039;d still do it without grumbling or being tired of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 &#8212; it was way easier for me to stay motivated in paying off debt than it was for me to stay the course building up savings. So backward! But that&#8217;s how it was. I had to automate things more so I&#8217;d still do it without grumbling or being tired of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam P</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985445</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 19:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for posting butterandjelly213, makes me feel less like a crazy person to know others struggle with it.

Admittedly, as far as problems go, it&#039;s not a very bad one. I can&#039;t say I&#039;m unhappy in life and keep myself occupied and maintain strong social connections. 

I&#039;m sure once I finally buy a house I&#039;ll have *TONS* of things to save up for and spend money on. Furniture, re-modelling, artwork, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting butterandjelly213, makes me feel less like a crazy person to know others struggle with it.</p>
<p>Admittedly, as far as problems go, it&#8217;s not a very bad one. I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m unhappy in life and keep myself occupied and maintain strong social connections. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure once I finally buy a house I&#8217;ll have *TONS* of things to save up for and spend money on. Furniture, re-modelling, artwork, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: butterandjelly213</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985443</link>
		<dc:creator>butterandjelly213</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 19:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam P, I struggle with the same question.  

When my goal was paying off student loans, it was so easy (and almost fun) to find new ways to free up cash and watch that balance drop.  Yet I can&#039;t seem to apply the same enthusiasm to saving.  I probably put aside 1/3 of my gross income at this point while at the same time indulging my hobbies (reading, running, travel, cooking).  I know I could save more, I just struggle to define the reason why I don&#039;t want to spend $20 on happy hour with a friend this week.  

Financial freedom is a great goal but sometimes, it&#039;s hard to see how $20 is going to speed that up significantly.  And then I wonder what I&#039;m going to do when I get there, though that&#039;s a whole other topic :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam P, I struggle with the same question.  </p>
<p>When my goal was paying off student loans, it was so easy (and almost fun) to find new ways to free up cash and watch that balance drop.  Yet I can&#8217;t seem to apply the same enthusiasm to saving.  I probably put aside 1/3 of my gross income at this point while at the same time indulging my hobbies (reading, running, travel, cooking).  I know I could save more, I just struggle to define the reason why I don&#8217;t want to spend $20 on happy hour with a friend this week.  </p>
<p>Financial freedom is a great goal but sometimes, it&#8217;s hard to see how $20 is going to speed that up significantly.  And then I wonder what I&#8217;m going to do when I get there, though that&#8217;s a whole other topic :)</p>
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		<title>By: Riki</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985441</link>
		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 19:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should take up photography!  That is definitely a hobby that will kill a few (or many) thousands of dollars.  

:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should take up photography!  That is definitely a hobby that will kill a few (or many) thousands of dollars.  </p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Adam P</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985440</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 19:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Johanna- I&#039;m working towards a Chartered Insurance Professional (CIP) desigantion (on course 5 of 10 now, should be done in 2013); I&#039;ve started volunteering my time (previously just money) to help people. I have some non-financial medium goals, though they feel like chores.

Riki - you&#039;ve got it 100% right; finding a place where I am passionate saving up and spending money (other than a home or retirement) is a challenge for me.  I think I&#039;ve read too many pf books/blogs . I can splurge in the 2 or low 3 digits on myself and like my purchases, find value in them. Beyond that, I can think of some things I would like to buy but talk myself out of it.  And then I get frustrated seeing the house market rising so much when I&#039;m saving endlessly to buy in, or an article on frustration pops up. :) 

Thanks again both of you for responding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johanna- I&#8217;m working towards a Chartered Insurance Professional (CIP) desigantion (on course 5 of 10 now, should be done in 2013); I&#8217;ve started volunteering my time (previously just money) to help people. I have some non-financial medium goals, though they feel like chores.</p>
<p>Riki &#8211; you&#8217;ve got it 100% right; finding a place where I am passionate saving up and spending money (other than a home or retirement) is a challenge for me.  I think I&#8217;ve read too many pf books/blogs . I can splurge in the 2 or low 3 digits on myself and like my purchases, find value in them. Beyond that, I can think of some things I would like to buy but talk myself out of it.  And then I get frustrated seeing the house market rising so much when I&#8217;m saving endlessly to buy in, or an article on frustration pops up. :) </p>
<p>Thanks again both of you for responding.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 18:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thought: Could working toward a medium-term goal that&#039;s not necessarily financial fill the same psychological niche for you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought: Could working toward a medium-term goal that&#8217;s not necessarily financial fill the same psychological niche for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Riki</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985426</link>
		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam, you&#039;ve spoken of this concern before - a situation that I haven&#039;t really found myself in as I am surely one who has too many goals and not quite enough money to go around.  So I prioritize.

Does it mean you need to find something that you&#039;re passionate about?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, you&#8217;ve spoken of this concern before &#8211; a situation that I haven&#8217;t really found myself in as I am surely one who has too many goals and not quite enough money to go around.  So I prioritize.</p>
<p>Does it mean you need to find something that you&#8217;re passionate about?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I am looking at short or medium term goals because, like others have said, it&#039;s frustrating constantly saving for the far off long term (including early retirement).  I travel quite a bit now, am taking night classes, and have monthly donations for two charities I believe in (recently started volunteering my time at a community center).

Guess I need to do some soul searching on what purchases would give me the best happiness/dollar spent ratios. Thanks for your input as always.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am looking at short or medium term goals because, like others have said, it&#8217;s frustrating constantly saving for the far off long term (including early retirement).  I travel quite a bit now, am taking night classes, and have monthly donations for two charities I believe in (recently started volunteering my time at a community center).</p>
<p>Guess I need to do some soul searching on what purchases would give me the best happiness/dollar spent ratios. Thanks for your input as always.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Adam P: Why does it need to be a savings goal, and why does it need to be medium term?  You could find some way to use your extra money right now (either on things/experiences for yourself or to help others).  Or you could give yourself the option of a very early retirement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam P: Why does it need to be a savings goal, and why does it need to be medium term?  You could find some way to use your extra money right now (either on things/experiences for yourself or to help others).  Or you could give yourself the option of a very early retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam P</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985420</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oops..that&#039;s $421k above asking price, not $42k above asking. I&#039;d link the article but moderation purgatory would await.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops..that&#8217;s $421k above asking price, not $42k above asking. I&#8217;d link the article but moderation purgatory would await.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam P</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985419</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Riki and Johanna - I agree with you that buying now is not an option for me, I am waiting to see what happens when interest rates rise. If that doesn&#039;t begin the bubble burst I don&#039;t know what will. A G&amp;M article today (#1 popular today I think) is about a tiny gross bungalow that sold for $42k ABOVE asking price, for 1.1mil. Bought by a Chinese student with her father&#039;s money. That sort of thing is so disgusting for a first time young buyer like myself to read.  I wouldn&#039;t want to rent that house, never mind buy it.

But my downpayment can&#039;t really ever be big enough, so I do feel frustrated because I could save huge amounts of my take home pay towards it for years and years and never have a stopping point.

I need a new savings goal for the medium term,  but I&#039;m at a loss. I made a list of interesting things that cost $1000-$10,000 to save for, but I can easily talk myself out of any of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Riki and Johanna &#8211; I agree with you that buying now is not an option for me, I am waiting to see what happens when interest rates rise. If that doesn&#8217;t begin the bubble burst I don&#8217;t know what will. A G&amp;M article today (#1 popular today I think) is about a tiny gross bungalow that sold for $42k ABOVE asking price, for 1.1mil. Bought by a Chinese student with her father&#8217;s money. That sort of thing is so disgusting for a first time young buyer like myself to read.  I wouldn&#8217;t want to rent that house, never mind buy it.</p>
<p>But my downpayment can&#8217;t really ever be big enough, so I do feel frustrated because I could save huge amounts of my take home pay towards it for years and years and never have a stopping point.</p>
<p>I need a new savings goal for the medium term,  but I&#8217;m at a loss. I made a list of interesting things that cost $1000-$10,000 to save for, but I can easily talk myself out of any of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Izabelle</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985418</link>
		<dc:creator>Izabelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another way to figure out if the path leading to achieving your goal is worth it: let&#039;s say tomorrow, you are struck by a car. You may not survive, or even just be too handicapped to enjoy the fruits of your original goal. Would the path so far still be worth it? It&#039;s important to enjoy the process as much as the goal. In some cases, that process is all you&#039;ll ever get.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another way to figure out if the path leading to achieving your goal is worth it: let&#8217;s say tomorrow, you are struck by a car. You may not survive, or even just be too handicapped to enjoy the fruits of your original goal. Would the path so far still be worth it? It&#8217;s important to enjoy the process as much as the goal. In some cases, that process is all you&#8217;ll ever get.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Adam P: If the example of your neighbors to the south isn&#039;t enough to convince you that buying overpriced housing in the midst of a bubble is a terrible idea, consider it a blessing that the bubble has already inflated beyond your reach so that you don&#039;t have a choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam P: If the example of your neighbors to the south isn&#8217;t enough to convince you that buying overpriced housing in the midst of a bubble is a terrible idea, consider it a blessing that the bubble has already inflated beyond your reach so that you don&#8217;t have a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Riki</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985415</link>
		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam P - the housing market in Toronto is bananas.  I&#039;m continually happy that I live in the Maritimes and housing prices here are so realistic.  Move to the East Coast and I guarantee that $300K will buy you more house than you want or need.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam P &#8211; the housing market in Toronto is bananas.  I&#8217;m continually happy that I live in the Maritimes and housing prices here are so realistic.  Move to the East Coast and I guarantee that $300K will buy you more house than you want or need.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My goal is home-ownership I guess, although the Toronto housing market is so in a bloated bubble that buying is out of the question, so I just continually save $1-2k a month towards my downpayment and wait. And then the prices go up another 5%.  Eventually I&#039;ll have $300k in my downpayment and say eff it and move to another part of the country where I can buy a house with no mortgage.

I have no other long term savings goals outside of retirement, and it&#039;s a struggle to think what I should save for in the medium term.  Travel seems to be the panacea of the PF blog world, except Trent (one of his redeeming qualities is he doesn&#039;t over emphasize travel as the be all end all).

Original art? Paul Smith suits? A Mercedes? (I barely drive my car now, once or twice a month)

Guess I&#039;ll just save more, even though the housing market where I live makes the only goal I have more out of reach every day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goal is home-ownership I guess, although the Toronto housing market is so in a bloated bubble that buying is out of the question, so I just continually save $1-2k a month towards my downpayment and wait. And then the prices go up another 5%.  Eventually I&#8217;ll have $300k in my downpayment and say eff it and move to another part of the country where I can buy a house with no mortgage.</p>
<p>I have no other long term savings goals outside of retirement, and it&#8217;s a struggle to think what I should save for in the medium term.  Travel seems to be the panacea of the PF blog world, except Trent (one of his redeeming qualities is he doesn&#8217;t over emphasize travel as the be all end all).</p>
<p>Original art? Paul Smith suits? A Mercedes? (I barely drive my car now, once or twice a month)</p>
<p>Guess I&#8217;ll just save more, even though the housing market where I live makes the only goal I have more out of reach every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Izabelle</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985412</link>
		<dc:creator>Izabelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[... so giddy I forgot the word &quot;am&quot; (!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; so giddy I forgot the word &#8220;am&#8221; (!).</p>
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		<title>By: Izabelle</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985411</link>
		<dc:creator>Izabelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how Trent reconciles his big house goal with his previous musings on not burdening his future self.

Goals are indeed nice to have, but if you focus too much on them, you may handcuff your future self into doing what matters to you *now*. That could be fine, but people grow and change. If I evaluated my life right now based on the plans I laid 5 or 10 years ago, I&#039;d be severely depressed. But I learned and grew during these years. My needs changed. I may not have what I thought I would back then, but I still giddily happy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how Trent reconciles his big house goal with his previous musings on not burdening his future self.</p>
<p>Goals are indeed nice to have, but if you focus too much on them, you may handcuff your future self into doing what matters to you *now*. That could be fine, but people grow and change. If I evaluated my life right now based on the plans I laid 5 or 10 years ago, I&#8217;d be severely depressed. But I learned and grew during these years. My needs changed. I may not have what I thought I would back then, but I still giddily happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Riki</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/03/09/breaking-through-the-frustration-barrier/#comment-985409</link>
		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s really important to find a balance between living for today and saving for tomorrow.  I&#039;m alive today and I deserve to live a happy and comfortable life today.  Balance is the key so I don&#039;t have to trick myself into being happy with my life as it currently is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s really important to find a balance between living for today and saving for tomorrow.  I&#8217;m alive today and I deserve to live a happy and comfortable life today.  Balance is the key so I don&#8217;t have to trick myself into being happy with my life as it currently is.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a slow process. For me, it&#039;s been helpful to track my financial progress over time, which I started doing 4 years ago. Then I see how far I&#039;ve come in terms of debt repayment and long-term savings.  It does help on the days that I get frustrated by how slow it takes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a slow process. For me, it&#8217;s been helpful to track my financial progress over time, which I started doing 4 years ago. Then I see how far I&#8217;ve come in terms of debt repayment and long-term savings.  It does help on the days that I get frustrated by how slow it takes.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine how frustrated you&#039;d feel if you hadn&#039;t sold your blog for some 6 figure+ windfall?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine how frustrated you&#8217;d feel if you hadn&#8217;t sold your blog for some 6 figure+ windfall?</p>
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