What’s inside? Here are the questions answered in today’s reader mailbag, boiled down to five word summaries. Click on the number to jump straight down to the question.
1. Student loans or savings?
2. Best use for tax refund
3. Jumping into entrepreneurship
4. Replacing a car after accident
5. On radio or television?
6. Are FHA loans dangerous?
7. Future Simple Dollar plans
8. Love, marriage, and credit cards
9. How to start selling stuff
10. 529s for textbooks
Ever had one of those days where nothing goes right?
Yesterday, I woke up to find that the faucet on one of the bathroom sinks had broken bad enough that it was leaking water all over the place – under the sink, on the floor, out of the bathroom, and onto the carpet.
As I’m trying to figure out why that’s broken, our life insurance company called to tell us that we had failed to pay our life insurance bill on time. Of course, we had paid it, but it took a long time to get that straightened out.
During all this, I forgot to take the trash out to the curb.
While trying to fix the sink, I smashed my head onto a metal pipe, giving myself a pretty significant bruise and bump just above the hairline.
One of those days…
Q1: Student loans or savings?
My husband and I take home about $8000/month after contributing 10-15% in our 403b accounts. We have approx $7500 in savings and no credit card debit. We are also already contributing $5500/year in a Roth IRA account with Vanguard. We are also saving approx $100/month for each of our two children (ages 3 1/2 and 16 months). Our only debt besides our mortgage is my husbands’ student loan debt which is at a below 4% interest rate but at a balance of about $35,000. I am thinking we should use all of our excess monthly cash ($3000 a month if we are good) and pay down that last debt so we can be free to further invest in other areas in the future. He thinks we should take that money and invest in other areas (while paying a little extra on his loans each month) since the interest rate on his loan is so low. I just feel like the balance is barely going anywhere despite him presently paying $350/month. So basically should we use our extra monthly income to pay off low interest student loan debt or invest it elsewhere?
To me, the answer depends on whether that 3.5% rate is locked in or whether it’s variable.
If that rate is locked in and can never be adjusted upwards, the rate is so low that you’re probably going to get a better return investing in other things. If that rate isn’t locked in and can adjust upwards, then extra payments right now are a great way to eliminate balance that might start costing you more interest if not paid off early.
Basically, look at the student loans as, at worst, an investment that earns a 3.5% annual return guaranteed. If the rate adjusts, then it’s an investment that earns a 3.5% return right now but might go up in the future if you lock in today by making extra payments.
The question really is what else would you be doing with that money? Is it better than a guaranteed 3.5% return on your money (or better)?
Q2: Best use for tax refund
What is the best move for me to make with my tax refund of $985. A little background, I’ll be 26 in about a month, work as a critical care RN, no children, and not currently married, but in a steady relationship for 8 years.
I have only $1,200 in savings, $14,500 in my 401k, and unfortunately since my mother’s passing the past month and moving, I have racked up a credit card bill to $1100. I never carry a balance, pay it in full each month, so for me, this is a huge amount of debt. I am also in a Yoga teacher training program that I pay monthly on and I have $660 left on that.
I feel nervous about having such a low amount of savings at my disposal. I thought at this point in my career (2 years), I would have an 8 month emergency fund, but it’s been difficult with life getting in the way. But having any credit card debt also terrifies me.
What should i do with the $985?? Put half in savings and the other half towards credit? all towards credit? all towards yoga? all in savings???
I would pay off the credit card debt, as high interest debt will have a huge negative impact if left unpaid. You really don’t want to start accruing 20% interest on that credit card debt.
You do have a $1,200 emergency fund, which is good enough for the time being. I would focus on raising that level once you’ve eliminated the debt.
As for the yoga teaching certification, if you ever reach a point where you can’t pay for it, that’s what the emergency fund is for.
Q3: Jumping into entrepreneurship
I am a young entrepreneur (29). I currently am an medical office clerk and make about 38k. I own two duplex rentals and recently opened a bridal boutique. I am still at the point where my personal income greatly subsidizes my business ventures. My goal is to one day quit my job, but I want to be realistic about it. I know that the businesses should be standing on their own, but I am wondering how much I need to save. Should I have a different savings account for each entity (personal, rental property, and store)?? And how much should be in them before I take the big leap??
What you need to do is sit down and come up with a genuine business plan for your businesses.
Visit your local library and check out some basic books on small business plans. Read them, then invest the time and care it takes to come up with a plan for your business that includes contingencies, worst case scenarios, and real planning for the future.
It is only through such a process that you can reveal whether or not you’re going to be able to make these businesses provide a lasting income for yourself. It will also help you figure out how much capital you need for those businesses to keep them secure.
Q4: Replacing a car after accident
My wife and I were in a recent car wreck and our vehicle was totaled. It was a luxury vehicle that we could afford and still maintain a nice savings account as well as do other things but I hated writing that car note check every month. Now that the the person that hit us insurance is paying off the vehicle my spouse and I are at a cross roads. I want to downgrade to a normal sedan(i.e. a cash car or something off craigslist) and my wife would like to try and find the same year make and model of the vehicle we owned but at a lower price or maybe even putting a larger down payment and therefore having a significantly lower car note payment than before. I always reference your name and say things like “What would Trent think” (I am a long time reader so sue me) but she feels like we should be able to enjoy our money if we are still able to aggressively save for retirement and other areas. What are your thoughts?
With two exceptions (mortgages and student loans), I’m opposed to going into debt for personal purchases, and a car that goes beyond the bare minimum needed to go from point A to point B is a personal purchase.
Your best approach here is to buy a sedan that you can pay cash for, then start banking the amount you were using for payments each month. Put them in a separate savings account and then wait until you have enough cash in that account to just write a check for the car you want.
That way, interest works for you (by accruing in your savings account) rather than against you (the interest portion of your car payments).
Marvin actually sent a pretty long email with lots of different questions and thoughts in it, so I broke off a few of his additional questions and statements below.
Q5: On radio or TV?
I have been subscribed to your blog for years now and you have an “everyman” air about yourself. Very relate-able without sounding disingenuous. Have you been asked to be involved in television/radio in any aspect. MSNBC, Dave Ramsey,Suze Orman,Etc. Because I feel people need to hear what you have to say.
I have appeared on a handful of local radio and television programs. For a while, I did a podcast, but I didn’t enjoy the “back end” work of keeping a podcast going (the technical issues with recording audio). For one, my hearing was bad enough that I couldn’t hear background noises that others were complaining about.
I have no objection to appearing in such forums. I just don’t actively seek them out.
Typically, people talking about personal finance is not a big ratings grabber. That’s why very few wholly personal finance programs appear anywhere at all, particularly outside of CNBC.
Q6: Are FHA loans dangerous?
I was watching the Suze Orman show last week and she stated that she feels FHA loans are going to put America back in the same mess it was in a few years ago as far as the housing market crash. I agree that a person should not get more home than they can afford but she feels like FHA is in and of itself not evil but that people should be able to put 20% down on a home or not buy one at all. I feel like most moderate income people will never be able to get into a home using that reasoning. What are your thoughts?
Your feeling is right, in my opinion: current home prices mean that if people wait until they have 20% of the house value saved for a down payment, many people will never own a house of their own.
The big reason for that, in my opinion, is that home prices continue to be ridiculously overinflated. Except for the recent downturn, the price of a home has grown faster than inflation for decades – and recently, it grew far faster than inflation for a while. Meanwhile, the average American’s wages haven’t even grown as fast as inflation.
What that means is that housing prices are going up at a much faster rate than people’s paychecks are, and thus housing is eating a bigger and bigger portion of people’s incomes.
There is no good solution for that, unfortunately. For historical rates of home ownership to continue, the FHA is going to have to continue to push a lot of people into homes that they couldn’t otherwise afford. If rates of home ownership go down, then more and more houses will sit on the market unowned and that means everyone will see the value of their home drop. This will convince more people to walk away from their mortgages, for one. It’s a huge mess without an easy resolution.
I don’t have any big plans.
I’ve been working on a site redesign for a while. It’s more of a subtle change – nothing too drastic. The site will still look green and white, the logo will still basically look the same, and email subscribers won’t see any change at all.
I’ve been working with banks in order to come up with ways for me to link to their savings accounts, CDs, and other such offerings in a way that’s mutually beneficial. Rarely does a day go by when I don’t talk about such things, so I’d like to find a way to build a relationship with some banks that I trust. This is still a work in progress.
I’m working on an independent project that involves internet publishing that might be of interest to some of you. Basically, I’m writing a book/multimedia project solely for internet release that’s really targeting people who aren’t really what I would call Simple Dollar readers, though many readers of the site may get some value from it.
Q8: Love, marriage, and credit cards
I am getting married in November. My fiance and I have very good credit (both in the 7s), modest paying jobs, and a healthy outlook on our spending goals. As we continue to plan for the future and discussing what accounts will merge, remain seperate, disappear, etc, one of the decisions to make is what credit cards we will keep/use.
We are both disciplined credit card users, no balance carryovers, and take advantage of rewards programs. In the interest of keeping our oldest accounts open for credit purposes, and maximizing rewards values and other cost benefits, we decided that I would be added to her airline rewards card account, and she to my hotel rewards card account. My guess is that there are no “bonus” rewards for adding an additional cardholder like there are for opening the account new.
While the easiest thing to do would be to wait until we get married and then contact each of our cards to authorize the additional cardholder, I’m wondering if we can take advantage by each opening a new account with the bank we are going to be added to now. In other words, I’ll open a card with the same bank she uses for airline milage and then we can just figure out how to consolidate after the wedding.
Why? Well, I figure at the end of the day, everything is the same, but we have the extra bonus “startup” points on each card. Am I overthinking? Is there any other risk? I don’t see much of a credit issue here as we’re both just opening new cards and we both have only a couple to begin with. Since the accounts would be merged after the wedding (or after the wait period for the rewards to post), I believe we can avid annual fees on both cards because of the “first year free” offer…
This plan seems okay, though I’m not entirely sure you’re getting positive value for your effort and thought. If you feel that you are, go for it.
My concern more comes with your desire to add each other to all of your credit cards. I would actually avoid doing that. If you end up in a situation where you fail to make a credit card payment, a missed payment will negatively affect both of your credit ratings. I would encourage you to keep those separate if at all possible.
Now, for things like checking accounts and the like, co-ownership is a great idea. I just would avoid it for things like credit cards that can have negative impact on your credit but give no real positive benefit from co-ownership.
Q9: How to start selling stuff?
Ok, we are leaving our house, job and everything to relocate, and we are taking the opportunity to get rid of all this stuff that has been sneaking up on us. How do we start? We just opened an EBay acct to sell stuff and I already use the consignment shop. There is always a garage sale this spring or summer, but what about the 11 foot high gilded mirror? The books that are academic not recreational? I’m trying to avoid the “give it all away” desire that is building!
The most difficult is getting rid of items family members gave to us, but we cannot take it all with us! We have enough of what we do want to take with us.
Also, any ideas on how to decide what necessities are worth taking and what are not? For instance, we have nice beds I plan on taking, but am planning on leaving the inherited and somewhat fragile dressers at our family camp. Should we plan to repurchase run-of-the mill glasses, but bring the dishes we like? I want to be frugal, but not financially stupid. We are not hiring a moving company, but are doing things on our own. The move is about 2000 miles.
This will be a sever drop in income, but a great rise in contentment. We are not happy with the corporate life and have had some serious set-backs that have changed all our viewpoints – even the teenagers. We have very few bills, but used our emergency fund for the emergency. We can build some of it back in the next 6 months – just not as much as we would like. My husband will stay in his nice job until the house is sold, so he might be here for a bit. Praying it is not so, and painting furiously. We have built a nice equity, live in a great neighborhood, have made continual improvements to the house, and could sell our house at a reduced rate if needed. That would not, however, provide the necessary funds for getting another house!
Might I just say that having all your bills gone (excepting a mortgage), your cars owned and an emergency fund in place is an awesome way to survive an actual emergency. Good insurance and a well stocked pantry is a help, too. Without all of that, we would not be contemplating a move for contentment, but a move because we would have lost everything. Good decisions last forever!
I’d get rid of everything that doesn’t have personal value for you. If it has significant personal value, take it; otherwise, sell it and bank that cash. You can get cheap glasses anywhere – it’s probably cheaper to get a small amount out of the ones you have at a sale than to ship them across the country.
For items like your mirror, I’d take pictures of them and go to a consignment shop, asking them if they’re willing to take the items into their store to sell.
For niche items like the academic books, a yard sale might work. You might also want to use eBay or something that will offer your goods to a broader audience.
Things like glasses and such are perfect for selling at a yard sale.
Q10: 529s for textbooks
I just started working for the State of Indiana today. During benefits orientation, they were explaining the benefits of 529 plans–specifically one through Sallie Mae that puts my contributions into a high yield savings account with no exposure to market risk. I’m planning to go back to graduate school to work on a Ph.D. (in my field, Ph.D.s are funded) within the next year and a half, hopefully even this fall, so it seemed like it might be a good idea to open the 529 and contribute whatever money I’m going to need for textbooks to it.
Is there something I’m missing that keeps this from being a great idea? Granted, the “high yield savings account” only earns 0.94% interest, but I’m not paying taxes on that money, so isn’t it really like getting a ~20% return?
This idea seems way too good for nobody to have thought of it before, which makes me suspicious that I’m missing something.
I’m not sure how you see this as getting a ~20% return. It will be better than what you’re getting from a savings account, but it won’t suddenly be a mountain of cash.
If you contribute money to a 529 account, you’ll essentially be investing it, likely in some sort of diversified index fund. I would never assume an investment like that would return more than 7 or 8% in a year. Some years, it might. Other years, like 2008, it’ll give you a negative return.
In a normal savings account or investment account, you’ll have to pay taxes on what you earn. So, if you’re in the 15% income tax bracket, you’ll be paying 15% of what you earn in interest to Uncle Sam. A 529’s advantage is that if you use the earnings in the account for educational purposes, you won’t have to pay those taxes.
Still, don’t go into this expecting a 20% return. A 7% annual return is much more realistic – but that’s still pretty good.
Got any questions? Email them to me or leave them in the comments and I’ll attempt to answer them in a future mailbag (which, by way of full disclosure, may also get re-posted on other websites that pick up my blog). However, I do receive hundreds of questions per week, so I may not necessarily be able to answer yours.